On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 16:21 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, David Woodhouse wrote: > > > > It isn't that far off, and we could improve it if we wanted to. In > > _general_ it's quite good already. > > I agree that it's close to hierarchical. But it's literally the exceptions > that get you. > > Let me mention (again) USB_STORAGE and ATA. > > They are not "under" SCSI. Making them do that would be insane.
But in the graphical tool that's _good_. Because those are the options you _wanted_ to see. You don't want to go digging around under the SCSI menu where all those boring hostadapters are, but you _do_ get to see the USB and ATA stuff elsewhere. But that's only for the graphical tool, which is where I actually expected the handholding to be required. If you want it in 'oldconfig' then I think that's weird, but I don't have a better solution than 'select', unfortunately. > > It would work quite nicely in the graphical tools, although you've > > thrown me a little by wanting it in the hacker's tool 'oldconfig' too. > > You obviously care more about turning stuff _on_ with 'make oldconfig' > > while other people who've spoken up seem to care more, as I do, about > > turning stuff _off_ that way. If I want my hand held, I'm happy enough > > to use the graphical tools. > > I tend to just edit the .config file, and run "make oldconfig". And I know > I'm not the only one, because I've talked to others who do the same. That's exactly what I do too. > And yes, then it's almost always correct to "turn things on as needed to > make everything work out right", while turning things off would be > actively wrong. My experience is exactly the opposite; perhaps because I spend so much of my time working on the Fedora kernel where almost everything starts off enabled by default, and I only ever want to turn stuff off. I think 'make oldconfig_noselect' is the way forward. We can both have what we want. -- dwmw2 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/