On 3/27/07, Jiri Slaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dmitry Torokhov napsal(a):
> On Wednesday 21 March 2007 18:03, johann deneux wrote:
>> On 3/21/07, Jiri Slaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Dmitry Torokhov napsal(a):
>>>> On 3/21/07, johann deneux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>> I would suggest adding a new effect type (3d effect) and extending the
>>>>> union in struct ff_effect.
>>>>> Let me know if I'm too vague, I already suggested that solution but
>>>>> got no answer. I wonder if my mail got lost, nobody understood what I
>>>>> said, or if it's just a plain bad idea.
>>>>>
>>>> My concern with a new 3D effect is that it will be a very "simple"
>>>> effect with only constant force apllied. That might be enough for
>>>> phantom but may not be sufficient for future devices. If we add
>>>> ability to specify a "plane" for an effect we will be able to add
>>>> envelopes on top of more complex effects and get desired combined
>>>> effcet.
>>> I didn't get this too much, because I don't understand the FF layer well so
>>> far. How is this going to work? Let's say, we have 3 torque values computed
>>> in US, and this structure:
>>>
>>> struct ff_effect {
>>>     __u16 direction;
>>>     struct ff_trigger trigger;
>>>     struct ff_replay replay;
>>>
>>>     struct ff_constant_effect {
>>>         __s16 level;
>>>         struct ff_envelope {
>>>              __u16 attack_length;
>>>              __u16 attack_level;
>>>              __u16 fade_length;
>>>              __u16 fade_level;
>>>         };
>>>     };
>>> };
>>>
>>> and need to pass the three 16bits torques into s16 ioaddr[0..2]. How?
>>>
>> Stupid question,

Sorry to be out for so long, maybe I'm stupid idiot, that understands
nothing, but:

No, it's not you, there are still things that are unclear. For
instance I think Dmitry intended to combine several planes, which I
don't understand.

What we want is to specify a 3d vector, which can be done using two
angles and a magnitude.
One angle and the magnitude we already have in ff_effect, so all we
need is an additional angle, which can be specified using a new ioctl.
I originally thought it could be done without a new ioctl, just by
extending ff_struct, but that won't work.


>> I have forgotten the details of ioctl: Wouldn't the
>> following work?

No, at least, as far as I understand this. I have computed _torques_, not
forces vector (this was misleading info in my first post), the question is
"how can I pass torques through plane and direction entries into KS?".

Torques and forces are both represented as 3d vectors. Are we
misunderstanding eachother maybe? By "vector" I mean a triplet of
numbers, when you say "torques" and "forces vector", do you mean that
each effect is composed of a bunch of torques?

--
Johann
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