On Tue, May 02, 2017 at 12:49:29PM +0200, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 10:41:20PM -0400, Sinan Kaya wrote:
> > On 5/1/2017 9:54 PM, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> > > (b) ASPM L1 enabled on boot, but disabled after powering off and back on
> > >     => I believe Sinan is working on this (+cc).
> > 
> > The decision was made not to touch ASPM registers following hotplug 
> > insertion
> > unless pcie_aspm.policy=powersave is specified.
> > 
> > The discussion is here: https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/4/17/255
> > 
> > This was done to maintain existing behavior and not break things.
> 
> Thanks for the reference, I hadn't followed the discussion in April
> very closely, but I think the outcome of the discussion is unfortunate.
> 
> As can be seen in Ashok's tests, merely turning slot power off and back
> on is sufficient to end up with a setting that draws more power.  That
> may be equally surprising for users as the issues would be that we seek
> to avoid with a "safety-first" ASPM policy.  In any case it seems
> undesirable.
> 
> I hope this is not the end if it and would like to encourage you to
> keep working on this.  Perhaps it is too simple to just define a
> default policy, and what is really needed is a policy that adjusts
> itself dynamically to specific devices or workloads, or that can be
> influenced by device drivers.

It's not the end of the discussion.  If you have an alternate
proposal, we'd love to hear it, especially if you implement it.

Reply via email to