On lunedì 2 aprile 2007, Antoine Martin wrote: > Jeff Dike wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 08:58:45PM +0100, Antoine Martin wrote: > >> I reckon that one critical thing which could drastically increase the > >> user base would be to have a working virtual framebuffer implementation. > > > > Why? I've never understood what a framebuffer gives you that you > > don't have now. > > Just like the network auto-configuration via dhcp, Hmm... for that to be completely plug-and-play you need to make sure a dhcp server on the host exists.
Vmware runs a separate DHCP server exactly for this, even if we should avoid that as much as possible. > it would allow users > to download images+kernel and run them like appliances without > understanding anything about X or UML, just click and run. > We are all capable of setting up Xvfb here, but most users are not, > which is why they download ready-made images. What about installing and pre-configuring Xnest on the image? With a suitable script calling xhost on the host, it just works. This project did it: http://umlbuilder.sourceforge.net/ although it stopped working for me ages ago (probably for some UML bug). I built a Mandrake image (that I now lost) with Xnest configured. With a script on the host which passes the host IP and that calls xhost, it should work easily. And btw, we need a standard startup script anyway. > It would also make it a lot easier to focus on writing a management UI, > hell if there isn't one shortly after, I'll do one myself! Why not one management UI running from the host, a-la vmware? Possibly, with as much code as possible in scripting languages, for better transparency. > Think of a UML browser image (running IE via wine in a limited image > with just X + wine + IE - I would much prefer that to having wine+IE > installed locally), testing framebuffer apps like gtk-fb/cairo-fb > without risking your dev environment, etc... > > Antoine -- Inform me of my mistakes, so I can add them to my list! Paolo Giarrusso, aka Blaisorblade http://www.user-mode-linux.org/~blaisorblade - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/