> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernat, Yehezkel [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 3:11 PM
> To: Limonciello, Mario <[email protected]>;
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> Subject: RE: [PATCH 00/24] Thunderbolt security levels and NVM firmware 
> upgrade
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 23:08
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> > Michael <[email protected]>; Bernat, Yehezkel
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> > Subject: RE: [PATCH 00/24] Thunderbolt security levels and NVM firmware
> > upgrade
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mika Westerberg [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 6:37 AM
> > > To: Limonciello, Mario <[email protected]>
> > > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected];
> > > [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
> > > [email protected]; [email protected]; Dominguez, Jared
> > > <[email protected]>; [email protected];
> > linux-
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> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/24] Thunderbolt security levels and NVM firmware
> > upgrade
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 11:24:12AM +0300, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> > > > On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 05:54:37PM +0000, [email protected]
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It happens occasionally when you reboot the machine when a device
> > is
> > > > > > connected but seems to be dependent on the BIOS version. Since it is
> > the
> > > > > > BIOS who is supposed to enumerated these devices, I suspect that it
> > is
> > > > > > either problem in BIOS or our PCI enumeration code does something
> > wrong.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm fairly certain it's an issue somewhere with Linux PCI 
> > > > > enumeration.  I
> > took
> > > > > the exact same HW and switched it out the SSD to one w/ Win10 1607.
> > > > > I set the dock and cable to "always allow" in TBT settings applet.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't reproduce any problems with enumeration with the dock
> > plugged in
> > > > > on cold boot.  All the devices hanging off the bridge show up 
> > > > > properly.
> > > >
> > > > You mean in Windows you don't reproduce the problem, right? Even
> > when
> > > > you reboot the machine with devices connected.
> > > >
> > > > I tried on Intel Skull Canyon NUC so that I disabled the thunderbolt
> > > > driver and after reboot (warm) I can see the PCI scan error about bus
> > > > being partially hidden behind a bridge.
> > > >
> > > > When this happens PCIe ports of the thunderbolt device/host seem to
> > be
> > > > unconfigured and Linux then decides to reconfigure them which leads to
> > > > the problem. When it works we get ACPI hotplug event to the PCIe root
> > > > port and the PCIe upstream/downstream ports are properly configured
> > by
> > > > the BIOS.
> > > >
> > > > I guess Windows does something differently here than what we do when
> > PCI
> > > > devices are enumerated.
> > >
> > > We discussed this with our BIOS/firmware people and there was a
> > firmware
> > > bug that caused many issues around hotplug and reboot flows. Is is
> > > possible for you to try with the latest BIOS and see if the issue
> > > reproduces (or are you already running the latest)?
> >
> > I was 1 version behind, but I double checked with the latest version 
> > (1.1.15)
> > and the same behavior exists on Linux (still works properly on Win10).
> >
> > If you have some more details about what the FW guys changed, I can check
> > with my Dell FW team if they've picked up the same fix.  I'm guessing it's 
> > not
> > the same problem though considering it works properly on Win10?
> 
> What about the TBT NVM version?
> NVM 16 sounds a bit old to me.

16 is the latest available for the XPS 9350.  I'd guess it's got to do with the 
stepping
of AR, but I don't know for sure.

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