On 2018-04-27 21:18, Dave Young wrote:
On 04/28/18 at 08:56am, Dave Young wrote:
On 04/27/18 at 04:12pm, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> [+cc Eric, Vivek, kexec list]
>
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 03:34:30PM -0400, Sinan Kaya wrote:
> > On 4/27/2018 3:22 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > Sinan mooted the idea of using a "no-wait" path of sending the "don't
> > > generate hotplug interrupts" command. I think we should work on this
> > > idea a little more. If we're shutting down the whole system, I can't
> > > believe there's much value in *anything* we do in the pciehp_remove()
> > > path.
> > >
> > > Maybe we should just get rid of pciehp_remove() (and probably
> > > pcie_port_remove_service() and the other service driver remove methods)
> > > completely. That dates from when the service drivers could be modules
that
Hmm, if it is the remove() method then kexec does not use it. kexec
use
the shutdown() method instead. I missed this details when I replied.
Portdrv hooks up remove handler to shutdown. That's why remove is
getting called.
> > > could be potentially unloaded, but unloading them hasn't been possible for
> > > years.
> >
> > Shutdown path is also used for kexec. Leaving hotplug interrupts
> > pending is dangerous for the newly loaded kernel as it leaves
> > spurious interrupts during the new kernel boot.
> >
> > I think we should always disable the hotplug interrupt on shutdown.
> > We might think of not waiting for command-completion as a
> > middle-ground or go to polling path instead of interrupts all the
> > time.
>
> Ah, I forgot about the kexec path. The kexec path is used for
> crashdump, too, so ideally the newly-loaded kernel would defend itself
> when possible so it doesn't depend on the original kernel doing things
> correctly.
It is true for kdump. But kexec needs device shutdown.
>
> Seems like this question of whether to do things in the original
> kernel or the kexec-ed kernel comes up periodically, but I can never
> remember a definitive answer. My initial reaction is that it'd be
> nice if we didn't have to do *any* shutdown in the original kernel,
> but I'm sure there are reasons that's not practical.
Devices sometimes assume it is in a good state initialized in firmware
boot
phase, so we need a shutdown in 1st kernel so that kexec kernel can
boot
correctly for those devices. For kdump since kernel already panicked
and it is not reliable so we do as less as we can in the 1st kernel
crash path, but there are some special handling for kdump in various
drivers
to reset the devices in 2nd kernel, eg. when it see "reset_devices"
kernel parameter.
>
> I copied Eric (kexec maintainer) and Vivek (contact listed in
> Documentation/kdump/kdump.txt) in case they have suggestions or would
> consider some sort of Documentation/ update.
>
> Bjorn
>
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Thanks
Dave
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