Hi Yu

As I understand it you are asking about the case where the two PCIe End Points 
(EPs) are connected below the same PCIe switch that is connected via it's 
Upstream Port (UPS) to a Root Port (RP) that is part of a Root  Complex (RC). 
Do I understand this correctly?

The ECR Eric mentioned aims to implement a platform neutral method for 
determining if P2P *between* RPs is viable in a system. However I think that is 
a bit different to your case (since your EPs are connected to the same RP via a 
PCIe switch).

What I *think* should be happening in your case when ACS is enabled is the the 
TLPs should be routed to the RP and from there to some translation agent (often 
an IOMMU). If the IOMMU has an entry for the addresses in  the TLPs then it 
should attempt to do a translation and forward on the TLP. If the IOMMU does 
not have a translation (or does not exist) then the behaviour is probably 
ill-defined and very specific to the platform you are working on.

If the IOMMU does exist and does have a translation entry it still may not 
support routing the TLP back to the PCI hierarchy. This again would be platform 
specific.

I guess what I am saying is the same as Logan and Eric. Once TLPs leave the 
PCIe Root Port and enter the system (CPU or SOC) you leave the world of the 
PCI/PCIe specification and the behaviour of those TLPs will be dependant  on 
the specifics of your platform.

Do note that if your platform and your EPs supports ATS then I think the 
behaviour can be different again because then the P2P TLPs should be able to 
use a translated address and you can setup ACS to allow for translated  
addresses. However we have not had access to any ATS enabled systems to work on 
this aspect of p2pdma yet. It's on the roadmap.

Cheers

Stephen




From: Eric Wehage <eric.weh...@huawei.com>
Sent: December 31, 2018 11:20 PM
To: Bjorn Helgaas; yu
Cc: linux-...@vger.kernel.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; Logan Gunthorpe; 
Stephen Bates; Jonathan Cameron; Alexander Duyck
Subject: RE: How to force RC to forward p2p TLPs
  

There is no method to force an RC to forward requests p2p. RC's are also not 
required to support p2p and whether they do or not is implementation specific. 
There is also currently no PCIe based standard to determine whether an RC 
supports  p2p or in what capacity. Also, even if p2p is supported, it might not 
be supported in a system that enables Virtualization (the Virtualization would 
have to setup p2p tables to allow it).

There is currently a PCIe ECR that has been submitted, but is undergoing 
review, that defines a PCIe capability for bridge devices (Root Ports and 
Switch Downstream Ports) that would allow them to advertise what level of p2p 
is supported by the device.

Eric Wehage
Huawei Principal Engineer, PCIe

-----Original Message-----
From: Bjorn Helgaas [mailto:helg...@kernel.org]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 6:29 PM
To: yu <kkn...@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-...@vger.kernel.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; Logan Gunthorpe 
<log...@deltatee.com>; Stephen Bates <sba...@raithlin.com>; Jonathan Cameron 
<jonathan.came...@huawei.com>; Eric Wehage <eric.weh...@huawei.com>; Alexander 
Duyck <alexander.h.du...@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: How to force RC to forward p2p TLPs

[+cc Logan, Stephen, Jonathan, Eric, Alex]

On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 12:50:19PM +0800, yu wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> We have a PCIE card which has a PEX8732 switch on-board,  and there 
> are two endpoint SOCs like graphic decoder behind the switch, and by 
> default the ACS is enabled in 8732.
> 
> We use the p2p DMA to transfer data between these two endpoint SOCs, 
> and if the host server is not enable ACS in BIOS, the p2p works well, 
> but when ACS is enabled in BIOS, the p2p is always failed. With the 
> help of a protocol analyzer, we can see that the TLP is redirected to 
> RC, and RC just discard it.
> 
> I tried to find how to make RC forward redirected TLP to its original 
> target, but nothing found, it seems this is highly related to the RC 
> vendors.
> 
> In the PCIE 4.0 spec, the section of the RC behavior of the p2p 
> request redirect  said that ''implementation-specific logic within the 
> RC that determines whether the request is directed towards its 
> original target, or blocked as an ACS Violation error. the algorithms 
> and specific controls for making this determination are not 
> architected by this spec''.
> 
> 
> So is there some spec or document to describe how to set the RC? Any 
> suggestion is appreciated.

Not that I'm aware of, but the folks I cc'd would know a lot more about this 
area.

Bjorn
      

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