On Thu, 17 Jan 2019, Andrea Parri wrote:

> > >           There is a special case (data;rfi) that doesn't
> > >           provide ordering in itself but can contribute to other
> > >           orderings.  A data;rfi link corresponds to situations
> > >           where a value is stored in a temporary shared variable
> > >           and then loaded back again.  Since the compiler might
> > >           choose to eliminate the temporary, its accesses can't
> > >           be said to be ordered -- but the accesses around it
> > >           might be.  As a simple example, consider:
> > > 
> > >                   r1 = READ_ONCE(ptr);
> > >                   tmp = r1;
> > >                   r2 = tmp;
> > >                   WRITE_ONCE(*r2, 5);
> > > 
> > >           The plain accesses involving tmp don't have any
> > >           particular ordering requirements, but we do know that
> > >           the READ_ONCE must be ordered before the WRITE_ONCE.
> > >           The chain of relations is:
> > > 
> > >                   [marked] ; data ; rfi ; addr ; [marked]
> > > 
> > >           showing that a data;rfi has been inserted into an
> > >           address dependency from a marked read to a marked
> > >           write.  In general, any number of data;rfi links can
> > >           be inserted in each of the other kinds of dependencies.
> 
> As a more general comment (disclaimer), I'm not sure we want to/can add
> all the constraints above.  On one hand, for some of them, I ignore the
> existence of current use cases in the source (and I don't quite see my-
> self encouraging their adoption...); on the other hand, these certainly
> do not make the model "simpler" or easier to maintain (in a sound way).
> 
> Moreover, I doubt that runtime checkers a la KTSan will ever be able to
> assist the developer by supporting these "dependency orderings". [1]
> 
> Maybe we could start by adding those orderings that we know are "widely"
> relied upon _and_ used by the developers, and later add more/strengthen
> the model as needed (where feasible).
> 
> Thoughts?

Right now I'm inclined to give up on all dependency orderings other
than address dependency from a marked read.  But this would mean
missing things like

        MR ->addr PR ->data MW

which ought to be a valid ordering (MR stands for "marked read", "PR"
for "plain read", and "MW" for "marked write").  Is that going to be 
okay?  Or should I also include data and control dependencies from 
plain reads to marked writes?

Also, should this still include "[marked] ; (data ; rfi)* ; addr"?  
Without it, we wouldn't be able to tell that the following test does
not race:


C non-race4

{
int *x = a;
}

P0(int **x, int *b)
{
        *b = 1;
        smp_wmb();
        rcu_assign_pointer(*x, b);
}

P1(int **x, int **tmp)
{
        int *r1;
        int *r2;
        int r3;

        r1 = rcu_dereference(*x);
        tmp = r1;
        r2 = tmp;
        r3 = *r2;
}

exists (1:r1=b /\ 1:r3=0)


And it seems reasonable that this pattern could be used in the kernel.  
Although, I admit, in this scenario it's much more likely that tmp
would be a non-shared variable.

Alan

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