On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 11:45:35AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 2:57 PM Yu, Fenghua <fenghua...@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Fenghua Yu [mailto:fenghua...@intel.com]
> > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 10:37:27PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > > Or to simplify the situation, how about we still use zero as global max 
> > > wait
> > > time (i.e. no limitation for global wait time) as implemented in this 
> > > patch
> > > set? User can still change the value to any value based on their usage. 
> > > Isn't
> > > this a right way to take care of any usage?
> >
> > Plus, if scheduler timers works, umwait will be forced time out by timer in 
> > HZ anyway.
> 
> Indeed.  But, on some configs, the scheduler timer intentionally will
> *not* fire.
> 
> >
> > Only for case without scheduler timer, sysadmin may need to set a small max 
> > umwait time to force timout. But in this case (real time), I doubt user app 
> > really wants to call umwait to save power with long latency of waking up 
> > from umwait. So likely in this case, user app won't call umwait and there 
> > is no usage to set a small value for max umwait time.
> 
> I don't really know why an application would use umwait at all.  About
> the only legitimate use I can think of is to treat it as a somewhat
> power-saving variant of REP NOP.  What I want to avoid is the case
> where it works dramatically differently on NO_HZ_FULL systems as
> compared to everything else.  Also, UMWAIT may behave a bit
> differently if the max timeout is hit, and I'd like that path to get
> exercised widely by making it happen even on default configs.
> 
> So I propose setting the timeout to either 100 microseconds or 100k
> "cycles" by default.  In the event someone determines that they save
> materially more power or gets materially better performance with a
> longer timeout, we can revisit the value.

OK. I will set the default umwait max time value to 100K cycles.

Thanks.

-Fenghua

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