On 3/19/19 1:38 PM, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:04 AM Nitesh Narayan Lal <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 3/19/19 9:33 AM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>> On 18.03.19 16:57, Nitesh Narayan Lal wrote:
>>>> On 3/14/19 12:58 PM, Alexander Duyck wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 9:43 AM Nitesh Narayan Lal <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/6/19 1:12 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 01:07:50PM -0500, Nitesh Narayan Lal wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/6/19 11:09 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 10:50:42AM -0500, Nitesh Narayan Lal wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> The following patch-set proposes an efficient mechanism for handing 
>>>>>>>>>> freed memory between the guest and the host. It enables the guests 
>>>>>>>>>> with no page cache to rapidly free and reclaims memory to and from 
>>>>>>>>>> the host respectively.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Benefit:
>>>>>>>>>> With this patch-series, in our test-case, executed on a single 
>>>>>>>>>> system and single NUMA node with 15GB memory, we were able to 
>>>>>>>>>> successfully launch 5 guests(each with 5 GB memory) when page 
>>>>>>>>>> hinting was enabled and 3 without it. (Detailed explanation of the 
>>>>>>>>>> test procedure is provided at the bottom under Test - 1).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Changelog in v9:
>>>>>>>>>>    * Guest free page hinting hook is now invoked after a page has 
>>>>>>>>>> been merged in the buddy.
>>>>>>>>>>         * Free pages only with order 
>>>>>>>>>> FREE_PAGE_HINTING_MIN_ORDER(currently defined as MAX_ORDER - 1) are 
>>>>>>>>>> captured.
>>>>>>>>>>    * Removed kthread which was earlier used to perform the scanning, 
>>>>>>>>>> isolation & reporting of free pages.
>>>>>>>>>>    * Pages, captured in the per cpu array are sorted based on the 
>>>>>>>>>> zone numbers. This is to avoid redundancy of acquiring zone locks.
>>>>>>>>>>         * Dynamically allocated space is used to hold the isolated 
>>>>>>>>>> guest free pages.
>>>>>>>>>>         * All the pages are reported asynchronously to the host via 
>>>>>>>>>> virtio driver.
>>>>>>>>>>         * Pages are returned back to the guest buddy free list only 
>>>>>>>>>> when the host response is received.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pending items:
>>>>>>>>>>         * Make sure that the guest free page hinting's current 
>>>>>>>>>> implementation doesn't break hugepages or device assigned guests.
>>>>>>>>>>    * Follow up on VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_PAGE_POISON's device side 
>>>>>>>>>> support. (It is currently missing)
>>>>>>>>>>         * Compare reporting free pages via vring with vhost.
>>>>>>>>>>         * Decide between MADV_DONTNEED and MADV_FREE.
>>>>>>>>>>    * Analyze overall performance impact due to guest free page 
>>>>>>>>>> hinting.
>>>>>>>>>>    * Come up with proper/traceable error-message/logs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tests:
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Use-case - Number of guests we can launch
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    NUMA Nodes = 1 with 15 GB memory
>>>>>>>>>>    Guest Memory = 5 GB
>>>>>>>>>>    Number of cores in guest = 1
>>>>>>>>>>    Workload = test allocation program allocates 4GB memory, touches 
>>>>>>>>>> it via memset and exits.
>>>>>>>>>>    Procedure =
>>>>>>>>>>    The first guest is launched and once its console is up, the test 
>>>>>>>>>> allocation program is executed with 4 GB memory request (Due to this 
>>>>>>>>>> the guest occupies almost 4-5 GB of memory in the host in a system 
>>>>>>>>>> without page hinting). Once this program exits at that time another 
>>>>>>>>>> guest is launched in the host and the same process is followed. We 
>>>>>>>>>> continue launching the guests until a guest gets killed due to low 
>>>>>>>>>> memory condition in the host.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    Results:
>>>>>>>>>>    Without hinting = 3
>>>>>>>>>>    With hinting = 5
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hackbench
>>>>>>>>>>    Guest Memory = 5 GB
>>>>>>>>>>    Number of cores = 4
>>>>>>>>>>    Number of tasks         Time with Hinting       Time without 
>>>>>>>>>> Hinting
>>>>>>>>>>    4000                    19.540                  17.818
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How about memhog btw?
>>>>>>>>> Alex reported:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     My testing up till now has consisted of setting up 4 8GB VMs on a 
>>>>>>>>> system
>>>>>>>>>     with 32GB of memory and 4GB of swap. To stress the memory on the 
>>>>>>>>> system I
>>>>>>>>>     would run "memhog 8G" sequentially on each of the guests and 
>>>>>>>>> observe how
>>>>>>>>>     long it took to complete the run. The observed behavior is that 
>>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>>     systems with these patches applied in both the guest and on the 
>>>>>>>>> host I was
>>>>>>>>>     able to complete the test with a time of 5 to 7 seconds per 
>>>>>>>>> guest. On a
>>>>>>>>>     system without these patches the time ranged from 7 to 49 seconds 
>>>>>>>>> per
>>>>>>>>>     guest. I am assuming the variability is due to time being spent 
>>>>>>>>> writing
>>>>>>>>>     pages out to disk in order to free up space for the guest.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here are the results:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Procedure: 3 Guests of size 5GB is launched on a single NUMA node with
>>>>>>>> total memory of 15GB and no swap. In each of the guest, memhog is run
>>>>>>>> with 5GB. Post-execution of memhog, Host memory usage is monitored by
>>>>>>>> using Free command.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Without Hinting:
>>>>>>>>                  Time of execution    Host used memory
>>>>>>>> Guest 1:        45 seconds            5.4 GB
>>>>>>>> Guest 2:        45 seconds            10 GB
>>>>>>>> Guest 3:        1  minute               15 GB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With Hinting:
>>>>>>>>                 Time of execution     Host used memory
>>>>>>>> Guest 1:        49 seconds            2.4 GB
>>>>>>>> Guest 2:        40 seconds            4.3 GB
>>>>>>>> Guest 3:        50 seconds            6.3 GB
>>>>>>> OK so no improvement. OTOH Alex's patches cut time down to 5-7 seconds
>>>>>>> which seems better. Want to try testing Alex's patches for comparison?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I realized that the last time I reported the memhog numbers, I didn't
>>>>>> enable the swap due to which the actual benefits of the series were not
>>>>>> shown.
>>>>>> I have re-run the test by including some of the changes suggested by
>>>>>> Alexander and David:
>>>>>>     * Reduced the size of the per-cpu array to 32 and minimum hinting
>>>>>> threshold to 16.
>>>>>>     * Reported length of isolated pages along with start pfn, instead of
>>>>>> the order from the guest.
>>>>>>     * Used the reported length to madvise the entire length of address
>>>>>> instead of a single 4K page.
>>>>>>     * Replaced MADV_DONTNEED with MADV_FREE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Setup for the test:
>>>>>> NUMA node:1
>>>>>> Memory: 15GB
>>>>>> Swap: 4GB
>>>>>> Guest memory: 6GB
>>>>>> Number of core: 1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Process: A guest is launched and memhog is run with 6GB. As its
>>>>>> execution is over next guest is launched. Everytime memhog execution
>>>>>> time is monitored.
>>>>>> Results:
>>>>>>     Without Hinting:
>>>>>>                  Time of execution
>>>>>>     Guest1:    22s
>>>>>>     Guest2:    24s
>>>>>>     Guest3: 1m29s
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     With Hinting:
>>>>>>                 Time of execution
>>>>>>     Guest1:    24s
>>>>>>     Guest2:    25s
>>>>>>     Guest3:    28s
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When hinting is enabled swap space is not used until memhog with 6GB is
>>>>>> ran in 6th guest.
>>>>> So one change you may want to make to your test setup would be to
>>>>> launch the tests sequentially after all the guests all up, instead of
>>>>> combining the test and guest bring-up. In addition you could run
>>>>> through the guests more than once to determine a more-or-less steady
>>>>> state in terms of the performance as you move between the guests after
>>>>> they have hit the point of having to either swap or pull MADV_FREE
>>>>> pages.
>>>> I tried running memhog as you suggested, here are the results:
>>>> Setup for the test:
>>>> NUMA node:1
>>>> Memory: 15GB
>>>> Swap: 4GB
>>>> Guest memory: 6GB
>>>> Number of core: 1
>>>>
>>>> Process: 3 guests are launched and memhog is run with 6GB. Results are
>>>> monitored after 1st-time execution of memhog. Memhog is launched
>>>> sequentially in each of the guests and time is observed after the
>>>> execution of all 3 memhog is over.
>>>>
>>>> Results:
>>>> Without Hinting
>>>>     Time of Execution
>>>> 1.    6m48s
>>>> 2.    6m9s
>>>>
>>>> With Hinting
>>>> Array size:16 Minimum Threshold:8
>>>> 1.    2m57s
>>>> 2.    2m20s
>>>>
>>>> The memhog execution time in the case of hinting is still not that low
>>>> as we would have expected. This is due to the usage of swap space.
>>>> Although wrt to non-hinting when swap used space is around 3.5G, with
>>>> hinting it remains to around 1.1-1.5G.
>>>> I did try using a zone free page barrier which prevented hinting when
>>>> free pages of order HINTING_ORDER goes below 256. This further brings
>>>> down the swap usage to 100-150 MB. The tricky part of this approach is
>>>> to configure this barrier condition for different guests.
>>>>
>>>> Array size:16 Minimum Threshold:8
>>>> 1.    1m16s
>>>> 2.    1m41s
>>>>
>>>> Note: Memhog time does seem to vary a little bit on every boot with or
>>>> without hinting.
>>>>
>>> I don't quite understand yet why "hinting more pages" (no free page
>>> barrier) should result in a higher swap usage in the hypervisor
>>> (1.1-1.5GB vs. 100-150 MB). If we are "hinting more pages" I would have
>>> guessed that runtime could get slower, but not that we need more swap.
>>>
>>> One theory:
>>>
>>> If you hint all MAX_ORDER - 1 pages, at one point it could be that all
>>> "remaining" free pages are currently isolated to be hinted. As MM needs
>>> more pages for a process, it will fallback to using "MAX_ORDER - 2"
>>> pages and so on. These pages, when they are freed, you won't hint
>>> anymore unless they get merged. But after all they won't get merged
>>> because they can't be merged (otherwise they wouldn't be "MAX_ORDER - 2"
>>> after all right from the beginning).
>>>
>>> Try hinting a smaller granularity to see if this could actually be the case.
>> So I have two questions in my mind after looking at the results now:
>> 1. Why swap is coming into the picture when hinting is enabled?
>> 2. Same to what you have raised.
>> For the 1st question, I think the answer is: (correct me if I am wrong.)
>> Memhog while writing the memory does free memory but the pages it frees
>> are of a lower order which doesn't merge until the memhog write
>> completes. After which we do get the MAX_ORDER - 1 page from the buddy
>> resulting in hinting.
>> As all 3 memhog are running parallelly we don't get free memory until
>> one of them completes.
>> This does explain that when 3 guests each of 6GB on a 15GB host tries to
>> run memhog with 6GB parallelly, swap comes into the picture even if
>> hinting is enabled.
> Are you running them in parallel or sequentially? 
I was running them parallelly but then I realized to see any benefits,
in that case, I should have run less number of guests.
> I had suggested
> running them serially so that the previous one could complete and free
> the memory before the next one allocated memory. In that setup you
> should see the guests still swapping without hints, but with hints the
> guest should free the memory up before the next one starts using it.
Yeah, I just realized this. Thanks for the clarification.
> If you are running them in parallel then you are going to see things
> going to swap because memhog does like what the name implies and it
> will use all of the memory you give it. It isn't until it completes
> that the memory is freed.
>
>> This doesn't explain why putting a barrier or avoid hinting reduced the
>> swap usage. It seems I possibly had a wrong impression of the delaying
>> hinting idea which we discussed.
>> As I was observing the value of the swap at the end of the memhog
>> execution which is logically incorrect. I will re-run the test and
>> observe the highest swap usage during the entire execution of memhog for
>> hinting vs non-hinting.
> So one option you may look at if you are wanting to run the tests in
> parallel would be to limit the number of tests you have running at the
> same time. If you have 15G of memory and 6G per guest you should be
> able to run 2 sessions at a time without going to swap, however if you
> run all 3 then you are likely going to be going to swap even with
> hinting.
>
> - Alex
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Regards
Nitesh

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