On Wed 20-03-19 18:30:42, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 03/20, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >
> > [Cc Ingo and Chanho Min - the thread starts here
> > http://lkml.kernel.org/r/[email protected]]
> >
> > On Wed 20-03-19 16:00:54, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > On 03/20, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed 20-03-19 14:24:11, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > > > On 03/20, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes we do hold the cgred mutex while calling freezable_schedule but 
> > > > > > why
> > > > > > are we getting a warning is not really clear to me. The task should 
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > hidden from the freezer so why do we warn at all?
> > > > >
> > > > > try_to_freeze() calls debug_check_no_locks_held() and this makes 
> > > > > sense.
> > > >
> > > > Yes it does. But it already ignores PF_NOFREEZE tasks and I fail to see
> > > > why is PF_FREEZER_SKIP any different.
> > >
> > > But they differ. PF_NOFREEZE is a "sticky" flag for kthreads. Set by 
> > > default,
> > > cleared by set_freezable() if you want a freezable kthread.
> > >
> > > PF_FREEZER_SKIP means that a sleeping freezable task will call 
> > > try_to_freeze()
> > > right after schedule() returns, so try_to_freeze_tasks() can safely count 
> > > it as
> > > "already frozen".
> >
> > But the fundamental semantic is the same right? Both might be sitting on
> > locks that might interfere with other tasks and we should be _extra_
> > careful when using them. In an ideal world, none of them is really
> > needed.
> 
> Ah, it seems that we misunderstood each other... see below.
> 
> > So my question remains. Can we drop the warning for PF_FREEZER_SKIP
> > tasks as well?
> 
> But why?

To drop the warning which led to the revert.

> It is obviously wrong to call try_to_freeze() with a lock held.

It is but the question what do we care about more. A task blocking
suspend so that the operation fails or a process being frozen with cgred
held. We have discussed that during the review of the original patch and
concluded that this is the only way for now AFAIR.

> Probably you meant the
> 
>       if (!(current->flags & PF_NOFREEZE))
> 
> check in try_to_freeze() when you said "already ignores PF_NOFREEZE tasks".

Yes, that is the check I've had in mind.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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