On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 23:46:16 -0700, Christoph Hellwig said: > Since when did Linux kernel submissions become "show me a better patch" > to reject something obviously bad?
Well, do you even have a *suggestion* for a better idea? Other than "just rip
it out"? Keeping in mind that:
> As I said the right approach is to probably (pending comments from the
> actual fat maintainer) to merge exfat support into the existing fs/fat/
> codebase. You obviously seem to disagree (and at the same time not).
At this point, there isn't any true consensus on whether that's the best
approach at the current. "Just rip it out" prevents following some directions
that people have voiced interest in. Now, if there was consensus that we
wanted a separate module that only did exfat, you'd be correct.
And just for the record, I've been around since the 2.5.47 or so kernel, and
I've seen *plenty* of times when somebody has submitted a better alternative
patch.
> But using this as a pre-text of adding a non-disabled second fat16/32
> implementation and actually allowing that to build with no reason is
> just not how it works.
Well.. let's see... It won't build unless you select CONFIG_STAGING. *And* you
select CONFIG_EXFAT_FS. *And* it wont mount anything other than exfat
unless you change CONFIG_EXFAT_DONT_MOUNT_VFAT
I think at that point, we can safely say that if it mounts a vfat filesystem,
it's because the person building the kernel has gone out of their way to
request that it do so.
Either that, or we have a major bug in kbuild. In general, kbuild doesn't build
things "for no reason".
Now, if what you want is "Please make it so the fat16/fat32 code is in separate
files that aren't built unless requested", that's in fact doable and a
reasonable request, and one that both doesn't conflict with anything other
directions we might want to go, and also prepares the code for more easy
separation if it's decided we really do want an exfat-only module.
> > > done. Given that you signed up as the maintainer for this what is your
> > > plan forward on it? What development did you on the code and what are
> > > your next steps?
> >
> > Well, the *original* plan was to get it into the tree someplace so it can
> > get
> > review and updates from others.
>
> In other words you have no actual plan and no idea what to do and want to
> rely on "others" to do anything, but at the same time reject the
> comments from others how to do things right?
So far, the only comment I've rejected is one "just rip it out" that conflicts
with
directions that others have indicated we may want to pursue.
And by the way, it seems like other filesystems rely on "others" to help out.
Let's look at the non-merge commit for fs/ext4. And these are actual patches,
not just reviewer comments....
(For those who don't feel like scrolling - 77.6% of the non-merge ext4 commits
are from a total of 463 somebodies other than Ted Ts'o)
Even some guy named Christoph Hellwig gave Ted Ts'o a bunch of help.
[/usr/src/linux-next] git log -- fs/ext4 | awk '/^commit/ {merge=0} /^Merge: /
{merge=1} /^Author:/ { if (!merge) {print $0}}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -t: -k
1,1nr -k 2
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