On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 11:36:11AM -0700, Doug Anderson wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 11:14 AM Mark Brown <broo...@kernel.org> wrote:

> > Boot on means that it's powered on when the kernel starts, it's
> > for regulators that we can't read back the status of.

> 1. Would it be valid to say that it's always incorrect to set this
> property if there is a way to read the status back from the regulator?

As originally intended, yes.  I'm now not 100% sure that it won't
break any existing systems though :/

> 2. Would this be a valid description of how the property is expected to behave
> a) At early boot this regulator will be turned on if it wasn't already on.
> b) If no clients are found for this regulator after everything has
> loaded, this regulator will be automatically disabled.

> If so then I don't _think_ #2b is happening, but I haven't confirmed.

> > boot-on just refers to the status at boot, we can still turn
> > those regulators off later on if we want to.

> How, exactly?  As of my commit 5451781dadf8 ("regulator: core: Only
> count load for enabled consumers") if you do:

>   r = regulator_get(...)
>   regulator_disable(r)

> ...then you'll get "Underflow of regulator enable count".  In other
> words, if a given regulator client disables more times than it enables
> then you will get an error.  Since there is no client that did the
> initial "boot" enable then there's no way to do the disable unless it
> happens automatically (as per 2b above).

It should be possible to do a regulator_disable() though I'm not
sure anyone actually uses that.  The pattern for a regular
consumer should be the normal enable/disable pair to handle
shared usage, only an exclusive consumer should be able to use
just a straight disable.

> ...or do you mean that people could call regulator_force_disable()?
> Couldn't they also do that with an always-on regulator?

No, nothing should use that in a non-emergency situation.

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