On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 at 14:31, Qais Yousef <qais.you...@arm.com> wrote:
>
> On 06/04/20 14:14, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > I have tried your patch and I don't see any difference compared to
> > previous tests. Let me give you more details of my setup:
> > I create 3 levels of cgroups and usually run the tests in the 4 levels
> > (which includes root). The result above are for the root level
> >
> > But I see a difference at other levels:
> >
> >                            root           level 1       level 2       level 
> > 3
> >
> > /w patch uclamp disable     50097         46615         43806         41078
> > tip uclamp enable           48706(-2.78%) 45583(-2.21%) 42851(-2.18%)
> > 40313(-1.86%)
> > /w patch uclamp enable      48882(-2.43%) 45774(-1.80%) 43108(-1.59%)
> > 40667(-1.00%)
> >
> > Whereas tip with uclamp stays around 2% behind tip without uclamp, the
> > diff of uclamp with your patch tends to decrease when we increase the
> > number of level
>
> So I did try to dig more into this, but I think it's either not a good
> reproducer or what we're observing here is uArch level latencies caused by the
> new code that seem to produce a bigger knock on effect than what they really
> are.
>
> First, CONFIG_FAIR_GROUP_SCHED is 'expensive', for some definition of
> expensive..

yes, enabling CONFIG_FAIR_GROUP_SCHED adds an overhead

>
> *** uclamp disabled/fair group enabled ***
>
>         # Executed 50000 pipe operations between two threads
>
>              Total time: 0.958 [sec]
>
>               19.177100 usecs/op
>                   52145 ops/sec
>
> *** uclamp disabled/fair group disabled ***
>
>         # Executed 50000 pipe operations between two threads
>              Total time: 0.808 [sec]
>
>              16.176200 usecs/op
>                  61819 ops/sec
>
> So there's a 15.6% drop in ops/sec when enabling this option. I think it's 
> good
> to look at the absolutely number of usecs/op, Fair group adds around
> 3 usecs/op.
>
> I dropped FAIR_GROUP_SCHED from my config to eliminate this overhead and focus
> on solely on uclamp overhead.

Have you checked that both tests run at the root level ?
Your function-graph log below shows several calls to
update_cfs_group() which means that your trace below has not been made
at root level but most probably at the 3rd level and I wonder if you
used the same setup for running the benchmark above. This could
explain such huge difference because I don't have such difference on
my platform but more around 2%

For uclamp disable/fair group enable/ function graph enable :  47994ops/sec
For uclamp disable/fair group disable/ function graph enable : 49107ops/sec

>
> With uclamp enabled but no fair group I get
>
> *** uclamp enabled/fair group disabled ***
>
>         # Executed 50000 pipe operations between two threads
>              Total time: 0.856 [sec]
>
>              17.125740 usecs/op
>                  58391 ops/sec
>
> The drop is 5.5% in ops/sec. Or 1 usecs/op.
>
> I don't know what's the expectation here. 1 us could be a lot, but I don't
> think we expect the new code to take more than few 100s of ns anyway. If you
> add potential caching effects, reaching 1 us wouldn't be that hard.
>
> Note that in my runs I chose performance governor and use `taskset 0x2` to

You might want to set 2 CPUs in your cpumask instead of 1 in order to
have 1 CPU for each thread

> force running on a big core to make sure the runs are repeatable.

I also use performance governor but don't pinned tasks because I use smp.

>
> On Juno-r2 I managed to scrap most of the 1 us with the below patch. It seems
> there was weird branching behavior that affects the I$ in my case. It'd be 
> good
> to try it out to see if it makes a difference for you.

The perf are slightly worse on my setup:
For uclamp enable/fair group disable/ function graph enable : 48413ops/sec
with patch  below : 47804os/sec

>
> The I$ effect is my best educated guess. Perf doesn't catch this path and
> I couldn't convince it to look at cache and branch misses between 2 specific
> points.
>
> Other subtle code shuffling did have weird effect on the result too. One 
> worthy
> one is making uclamp_rq_dec() noinline gains back ~400 ns. Making
> uclamp_rq_inc() noinline *too* cancels this gain out :-/
>
>
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
> index 0464569f26a7..0835ee20a3c7 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> @@ -1071,13 +1071,11 @@ static inline void uclamp_rq_dec_id(struct rq *rq, 
> struct task_struct *p,
>
>  static inline void uclamp_rq_inc(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p)
>  {
> -       enum uclamp_id clamp_id;
> -
>         if (unlikely(!p->sched_class->uclamp_enabled))
>                 return;
>
> -       for_each_clamp_id(clamp_id)
> -               uclamp_rq_inc_id(rq, p, clamp_id);
> +       uclamp_rq_inc_id(rq, p, UCLAMP_MIN);
> +       uclamp_rq_inc_id(rq, p, UCLAMP_MAX);
>
>         /* Reset clamp idle holding when there is one RUNNABLE task */
>         if (rq->uclamp_flags & UCLAMP_FLAG_IDLE)
> @@ -1086,13 +1084,11 @@ static inline void uclamp_rq_inc(struct rq *rq, 
> struct task_struct *p)
>
>  static inline void uclamp_rq_dec(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p)
>  {
> -       enum uclamp_id clamp_id;
> -
>         if (unlikely(!p->sched_class->uclamp_enabled))
>                 return;
>
> -       for_each_clamp_id(clamp_id)
> -               uclamp_rq_dec_id(rq, p, clamp_id);
> +       uclamp_rq_dec_id(rq, p, UCLAMP_MIN);
> +       uclamp_rq_dec_id(rq, p, UCLAMP_MAX);
>  }
>
>  static inline void
>
>
> FWIW I fail to see activate/deactivate_task in perf record. They don't show up
> on the list which means this micro benchmark doesn't stress them as Mel's test
> does.

Strange because I have been able to trace them.

>
> Worth noting that I did try running the same test on 2 vCPU VirtualBox VM and
> 64 vCPU qemu and I couldn't spot a difference when uclamp was enabled/disabled
> in these 2 environments.
>
> >
> > Beside this, that's also interesting to notice the ~6% of perf impact
> > between each level for the same image
>
> Beside my observation above, I captured this function_graph when
> FAIR_GROUP_SCHED is enabled. What I pasted below is a particularly bad
> deactivation, it's not always that costly.
>
> This ran happened was recorded with uclamp disabled.
>
> I admit I don't know how much of these numbers is ftrace overhead. When trying
> to capture similar runs for uclamp, the numbers didn't add up compared to
> running the test without ftrace generating the graph. If juno is suffering 
> from
> bad branching costs in this path, then I suspect ftrace will amplify this as
> AFAIU it'll cause extra jumps on entry and exit.
>
>
>
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276302: funcgraph_entry:                   
> |  deactivate_task() {
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276302: funcgraph_entry:                   
> |    dequeue_task_fair() {
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276303: funcgraph_entry:                   
> |      update_curr() {
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276304: funcgraph_entry:        0.780 us   
> |        update_min_vruntime();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276306: funcgraph_entry:                   
> |        cpuacct_charge() {
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276306: funcgraph_entry:        0.820 us   
> |          __rcu_read_lock();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276308: funcgraph_entry:        0.740 us   
> |          __rcu_read_unlock();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276309: funcgraph_exit:         3.980 us   
> |        }
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276310: funcgraph_entry:        0.720 us   
> |        __rcu_read_lock();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276312: funcgraph_entry:        0.720 us   
> |        __rcu_read_unlock();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276313: funcgraph_exit:         9.840 us   
> |      }
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276314: funcgraph_entry:                   
> |      __update_load_avg_se() {
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276315: funcgraph_entry:        0.720 us   
> |        __accumulate_pelt_segments();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276316: funcgraph_exit:         2.260 us   
> |      }
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276317: funcgraph_entry:                   
> |      __update_load_avg_cfs_rq() {
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276318: funcgraph_entry:        0.860 us   
> |        __accumulate_pelt_segments();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276319: funcgraph_exit:         2.340 us   
> |      }
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276320: funcgraph_entry:        0.760 us   
> |      clear_buddies();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276321: funcgraph_entry:        0.800 us   
> |      account_entity_dequeue();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276323: funcgraph_entry:        0.720 us   
> |      update_cfs_group();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276324: funcgraph_entry:        0.740 us   
> |      update_min_vruntime();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276326: funcgraph_entry:        0.720 us   
> |      set_next_buddy();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276327: funcgraph_entry:                   
> |      __update_load_avg_se() {
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276328: funcgraph_entry:        0.740 us   
> |        __accumulate_pelt_segments();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276329: funcgraph_exit:         2.220 us   
> |      }
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276330: funcgraph_entry:                   
> |      __update_load_avg_cfs_rq() {
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276331: funcgraph_entry:        0.740 us   
> |        __accumulate_pelt_segments();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276332: funcgraph_exit:         2.180 us   
> |      }
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276333: funcgraph_entry:                   
> |      update_cfs_group() {
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276334: funcgraph_entry:                   
> |        reweight_entity() {
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276335: funcgraph_entry:                   
> |          update_curr() {
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276335: funcgraph_entry:        0.720 us   
> |            __calc_delta();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276337: funcgraph_entry:        0.740 us   
> |            update_min_vruntime();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276338: funcgraph_exit:         3.560 us   
> |          }
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276339: funcgraph_entry:        0.720 us   
> |          account_entity_dequeue();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276340: funcgraph_entry:        0.720 us   
> |          account_entity_enqueue();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276342: funcgraph_exit:         7.860 us   
> |        }
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276342: funcgraph_exit:         9.280 us   
> |      }
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276343: funcgraph_entry:                   
> |      __update_load_avg_se() {
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276344: funcgraph_entry:        0.720 us   
> |        __accumulate_pelt_segments();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276345: funcgraph_exit:         2.180 us   
> |      }
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276346: funcgraph_entry:                   
> |      __update_load_avg_cfs_rq() {
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276347: funcgraph_entry:        0.740 us   
> |        __accumulate_pelt_segments();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276348: funcgraph_exit:         2.180 us   
> |      }
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276349: funcgraph_entry:                   
> |      update_cfs_group() {
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276350: funcgraph_entry:                   
> |        reweight_entity() {
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276350: funcgraph_entry:                   
> |          update_curr() {
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276351: funcgraph_entry:        0.740 us   
> |            __calc_delta();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276353: funcgraph_entry:        0.720 us   
> |            update_min_vruntime();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276354: funcgraph_exit:         3.580 us   
> |          }
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276355: funcgraph_entry:        0.740 us   
> |          account_entity_dequeue();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276356: funcgraph_entry:        0.720 us   
> |          account_entity_enqueue();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276358: funcgraph_exit:         7.960 us   
> |        }
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276358: funcgraph_exit:         9.400 us   
> |      }
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276360: funcgraph_entry:                   
> |      __update_load_avg_se() {
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276360: funcgraph_entry:        0.740 us   
> |        __accumulate_pelt_segments();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276362: funcgraph_exit:         2.220 us   
> |      }
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276362: funcgraph_entry:                   
> |      __update_load_avg_cfs_rq() {
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276363: funcgraph_entry:        0.740 us   
> |        __accumulate_pelt_segments();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276365: funcgraph_exit:         2.160 us   
> |      }
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276366: funcgraph_entry:                   
> |      update_cfs_group() {
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276367: funcgraph_entry:                   
> |        reweight_entity() {
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276368: funcgraph_entry:                   
> |          update_curr() {
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276368: funcgraph_entry:        0.720 us   
> |            __calc_delta();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276370: funcgraph_entry:        0.720 us   
> |            update_min_vruntime();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276371: funcgraph_exit:         3.540 us   
> |          }
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276372: funcgraph_entry:        0.740 us   
> |          account_entity_dequeue();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276373: funcgraph_entry:        0.720 us   
> |          account_entity_enqueue();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276375: funcgraph_exit:         7.840 us   
> |        }
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276375: funcgraph_exit:         9.300 us   
> |      }
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276376: funcgraph_entry:        0.720 us   
> |      hrtick_update();
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276377: funcgraph_exit:       + 75.000 us  
> |    }
>       sched-pipe-6532  [001]  9407.276378: funcgraph_exit:       + 76.700 us  
> |  }
>
>
> Cheers
>
> --
> Qais Yousef

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