On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 10:16:09 +0200 Jiri Slaby <jsl...@suse.cz> wrote:
> On 11. 06. 20, 9:38, SeongJae Park wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 23:35:24 -0700 Joe Perches <j...@perches.com> wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 2020-06-11 at 08:25 +0200, SeongJae Park wrote: > >>> From: SeongJae Park <sjp...@amazon.de> > >>> > >>> This patchset 1) adds support of deprecated terms in the 'checkpatch.pl' > >>> and 2) set the 'blacklist' and 'whitelist' as deprecated with > >>> replacement suggestion of 'denylist' and 'allowlist', because the > >>> suggestions are incontrovertible, doesn't make people hurt, and more > >>> self-explanatory. > >> > >> While the checkpatch implementation is better, > >> I'm still very "meh" about the whole concept. > > > > I can understand your concerns about politic things in the second patch. > > However, the concept of the 'deprecated terms' in the first patch is not > > political but applicable to the general cases. We already had the > > commits[1] > > for a similar case. So, could you ack for at least the first patch? > > > > [1] https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Kernel-Hugs > > Fuck you! replaced by hug you! is a completely different story. The > former is indeed offending to majority (despite it's quite common to > tell someone "fuck you" in my subregion; OTOH hugging, no way -- I'm a > straight non-communist). If it turns out that any word (e.g. blacklist) > offends _majority_ (or at least a significant part of it) of some > minority or culture, then sure, we should send it to /dev/null. But we > should by no means listen to extreme individuals. Thank you for the opinion. But, my point here is, deprecating some terms would occur in general as the f-word to hug replacement was, and the first patch is a simple technical preparation for such case. And, therefore, it would not need to be blocked due to the second patch. For example, as it seems at least you and I agree on the f-word to hug replacement, we could add ``fuck||hug`` in the `deprecated_terms.txt` file to avoid future spread of the f-words. Also, I personally don't think the second patch as a political extreme change but just a right thing to do. Nonetheless, I also understand people could think in different ways. Moreover, it is obviously non-technical thing which I am really bad at. For the reason, I am CC-ing the code of conduct committees[1]. I would like to hear their opinions on this. [1] https://www.kernel.org/code-of-conduct.html Thanks, SeongJae Park > > thanks, > -- > js > suse labs
