On Mon 29 Jun 17:37 PDT 2020, Stefano Stabellini wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Jun 2020, Rob Herring wrote:
> > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 11:40 AM Ben Levinsky <blevi...@xilinx.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Rob,
> > >
> > > The Xilinx R5 Remoteproc driver has been around for a long time -- 
> > > admittedly we should have upstreamed it long ago. The driver in the 
> > > current form is using an "classic" remoteproc device tree node as 
> > > described here.
> > 
> > I would rather not have 2 possible bindings to maintain. If there's
> > been no rush to upstream this til now, then it can wait longer.
> > 
> > >
> > > I am working with Stefano to come up with an appropriate System Device 
> > > Tree representation but it is not going to be ready right away. Our 
> > > preference would be to upstream the remoteproc node and driver in their 
> > > current forms while system device tree is maturing.
> > 
> > There's obviously going to still need to be some sort of description
> > of the interface between cores, but this has parts that obviously
> > conflict with what's getting defined for system DT. The TCMs are the
> > most obvious. If you can remove (or hardcode in the driver) what
> > conflicts, then perhaps this can be upstreamed now.
> 
> 
> Hi Rob,
> 
> Sorry it took a while to answer back but we wanted to do some research
> to make sure the reply is correct.
> 
> 
> The System Device Tree version of the OpenAMP remoteproc bindings aims
> at being simpler and vendor-neutral. As anything else System Device
> Tree, Lopper will read it and generate a "traditional" device tree with
> the existing remoteproc bindings. In that sense, it might not affect
> Linux directly.
> 

Can you give some examples of how you will be able to describe the
hardware involved in powering/clocking resources surrounding your
remoteproc and the necessary resources in a "simpler and vendor neutral"
way that then can be further lopped(?) into something that Linux can use
to control any remoteproc?

> However, given the fragmentation of the remoteproc bindings across
> multiple vendors (they are all different), I think it is a good idea for
> Linux, for System Device Tree, and in general to come up with simpler
> remoteproc bindings, more aligned between the vendors. If nothing else,
> it is going to make Lopper's development easier.
> 

In my view the big reason for the fragmentation between bindings is
because they all describe different hardware. There has been common
properties of remoteprocs discussed, but apart from the firmware-name
property I don't think we have agreed on any.

> 
> So I think it is a good idea to take this opportunity to simplify the
> Xilinx remoteproc bindings as you suggested. The idea of to removing the
> TCM nodes is a good one. In addition I asked Ben to have a look at
> whether the mboxes and mbox-names properties can be removed too.
> 

If your remoteproc uses a mailbox for signaling, then this should be
described in devicetree. This will allow you to reuse components in
other designs where either part is replaced or reused.

Regards,
Bjorn

> Ben will reply with a simplified bindings proposal.

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