On Mon, 2020-08-17 at 17:15 +0200, gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote: > On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 03:00:24PM +0000, Roosen Henri wrote: > > On Mon, 2020-08-17 at 16:35 +0200, gre...@linuxfoundation.org > > wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 02:15:16PM +0000, Roosen Henri wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2020-06-09 at 16:18 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 2:36 PM Roosen Henri < > > > > > henri.roo...@ginzinger.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Arnd, > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you are well and could answer me a quick question. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've read on the kernel mailing-list that initially there > > > > > > was > > > > > > an > > > > > > intention to backport the final y2038 patches to v5.4. > > > > > > We're > > > > > > currently targeting to use the v5.4 LTS kernel for a > > > > > > project > > > > > > which > > > > > > should be y2038 compliant. > > > > > > > > > > > > I couldn't find all of the y2038-endgame patches in the > > > > > > current > > > > > > v5.4-stable branch. Are there any patches still required to > > > > > > be > > > > > > backported in order for v5.4 to be y2038 compliant, or can > > > > > > the > > > > > > remaining patches be ignored (because of only cleanup?)? > > > > > > Else, > > > > > > is > > > > > > there still an intention to get the v5.4 LTS kernel y2038 > > > > > > compliant? > > > > > > > > > > I don't think there are currently any plans to merge my > > > > > y2038- > > > > > endgame > > > > > branch > > > > > into the official linux-5.4 lts kernel, but you should be > > > > > able to > > > > > just pull from > > > > > > > > > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/arnd/playground.git/log/?h=y2038-endgame > > > > > > > > > > and get the same results. If you see any problems with that, > > > > > please > > > > > report > > > > > that to me with Cc to the mailing list and perhaps gregkh, so > > > > > I > > > > > can > > > > > see if > > > > > I can resolve it by rebasing my patches, or if he would like > > > > > to > > > > > merge > > > > > the > > > > > patches. > > > > > > > > Pulling the y2038-endgame branch does lead to some conflicts, > > > > which > > > > are > > > > currently still kinda staightforward to solve. > > > > > > > > However I'd be very interested in getting this branch merged to > > > > v5.4, > > > > so we don't run into more difficult merge conflicts the coming > > > > years > > > > where the v5.4-LTS still gets stable updates (Dec, 2025) and > > > > possibly > > > > to get any related fixes from upstream. > > > > > > > > @Greg: any chance to get the y2038-endgame merged into v5.4.y? > > > > > > I have no idea what this really means, and what it entails, but > > > odds > > > are, no :) > > > > I fully understand, thanks for your statement on this. > > > > > Why not just use a newer kernel? Why are you stuck using a 5.4 > > > kernel > > > for a device that has to live in 2038? That feels very foolish > > > to > > > me... > > > > Oh I agree on that :) It's just that these are currently customer > > requirements. > > Are you sure that customers really understand what they want? > > Usually they want a well-supported, stable, system. Why do they care > about a specific kernel version? That feels odd.
I think the industry is learning that almost no systems can be left untouched and a well-supported, upgradeable system is needed. That has always been our vision and we're providing that for them. Thanks, Henri > > Good luck! > > greg k-h
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