On Thu, 2020-09-03 at 00:34 -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote: > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 12:57 PM Dario Faggioli <dfaggi...@suse.com> > wrote: > > 2) protection of the kernel from the other thread running in > > userspace > > may be achieved in different ways. This is one, sure. ASI will > > probably > > be another. Hence if/when we'll have both, this and ASI, it would > > be > > cool to be able to configure the system in such a way that there is > > only one active, to avoid paying the price of both! :-) > > Actually, no. Part of ASI will involve exactly what this patch does - > IPI-pausing siblings but ASI does so when they have no choice but to > switch away from the "limited kernel" mapping, into the full host > kernel mapping. I am not sure if they have yet implemented that part > but they do talk of it in [1] and in their pretty LPC slides. It is > just that ASI tries to avoid that scenario of kicking all siblings > out > of guest mode. So, maybe this patch can be a stepping stone to ASI. > Ah, sure! I mean, it of course depends on how things get mixed together, which we still don't know. :-)
I know that ASI wants to do this very same thing some times. I just wanted to say that we need/want only one mechanism for doing that, in place at any given time. If that mechanism will be this one, and ASI then uses it (e.g., in a scenario where for whatever reason one wants ASI with the kicking but not Core Scheduling), then great, I agree, and everything does makes sense. > Why do you feel that ASI on its own offers some magical protection > that eliminates the need for this patch? > I don't. I was just trying to think at different use cases, how they mix and match, etc. But as you're suggesting (and as Thomas has shown very clearly in another reply to this email), the thing that makes the most sense is to have one mechanism for the kicking, used by anyone that needs it. :-) Thanks and Regards -- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D http://about.me/dario.faggioli Virtualization Software Engineer SUSE Labs, SUSE https://www.suse.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- <<This happens because _I_ choose it to happen!>> (Raistlin Majere)
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