On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 03:29:46PM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 01:58:03PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

> > >   sched_ttwu_pending()
> > >           if (WARN_ON_ONCE(p->on_cpu))
> > >                   smp_cond_load_acquire(&p->on_cpu)
> > > 
> > >           ttwu_do_activate()
> > >                   if (p->sched_contributes_to_load)
> > >                           ...
> > > 
> > > on the other (for the remote case, which is the only 'interesting' one).
> > 
> 
> But this side is interesting because I'm having trouble convincing
> myself it's 100% correct for sched_contributes_to_load. The write of
> prev->sched_contributes_to_load in the schedule() path has a big gap
> before it hits the smp_store_release(prev->on_cpu).
> 
> On the ttwu path, we have
> 
>         if (smp_load_acquire(&p->on_cpu) &&
>             ttwu_queue_wakelist(p, task_cpu(p), wake_flags | WF_ON_CPU))
>                 goto unlock;
> 
>       ttwu_queue_wakelist queues task on the wakelist, sends IPI
>       and on the receiver side it calls ttwu_do_activate and reads
>       sched_contributes_to_load
> 
> sched_ttwu_pending() is not necessarily using the same rq lock so no
> protection there. The smp_load_acquire() has just been hit but it still
> leaves a gap between when sched_contributes_to_load is written and a
> parallel read of sched_contributes_to_load.
> 
> So while we might be able to avoid a smp_rmb() before the read of
> sched_contributes_to_load and rely on p->on_cpu ordering there,
> we may still need a smp_wmb() after nr_interruptible() increments
> instead of waiting until the smp_store_release() is hit while a task
> is scheduling. That would be a real memory barrier on arm64 and a plain
> compiler barrier on x86-64.

I'm mighty confused by your words here; and the patch below. What actual
scenario are you worried about?

If we take the WF_ON_CPU path, we IPI the CPU the task is ->on_cpu on.
So the IPI lands after the schedule() that clears ->on_cpu on the very
same CPU.

> 
> > Also see the "Notes on Program-Order guarantees on SMP systems."
> > comment.
> 
> I did, it was the on_cpu ordering for the blocking case that had me
> looking at the smp_store_release and smp_cond_load_acquire in arm64 in
> the first place thinking that something in there must be breaking the
> on_cpu ordering. I'm re-reading it every so often while trying to figure
> out where the gap is or whether I'm imagining things.
> 
> Not fully tested but did not instantly break either
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
> index d2003a7d5ab5..877eaeba45ac 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> @@ -4459,14 +4459,26 @@ static void __sched notrace __schedule(bool preempt)
>               if (signal_pending_state(prev_state, prev)) {
>                       prev->state = TASK_RUNNING;
>               } else {
> -                     prev->sched_contributes_to_load =
> +                     int acct_load =
>                               (prev_state & TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE) &&
>                               !(prev_state & TASK_NOLOAD) &&
>                               !(prev->flags & PF_FROZEN);
>  
> -                     if (prev->sched_contributes_to_load)
> +                     prev->sched_contributes_to_load = acct_load;
> +                     if (acct_load) {
>                               rq->nr_uninterruptible++;
>  
> +                             /*
> +                              * Pairs with p->on_cpu ordering, either a
> +                              * smp_load_acquire or smp_cond_load_acquire
> +                              * in the ttwu path before ttwu_do_activate
> +                              * p->sched_contributes_to_load. It's only
> +                              * after the nr_interruptible update happens
> +                              * that the ordering is critical.
> +                              */
> +                             smp_wmb();
> +                     }

Sorry, I can't follow, at all.

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