> > mean that hotmail doesn't get ECN packets and the connection gets established
> > just as if you were talking to a plain non-ECN server without a firewall.
> 
> gozer IS my firewall. :) beyond it is a modem and a dailup point, my ISPs
> LAN and then the innanet. and I tried from it and from a box behind it.
> I connected to hotmail just fine.

Most likely you are behind a transparent proxy
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