On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 07:16:11PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
 > On Tue 2008-02-26 13:10:01, Dave Jones wrote:
 > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 06:59:54PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
 > >  
 > >  > > if by 'custom' you mean the solution everyone agreed to work
 > >  > > toward at the power management summit several years ago
 > >  > > (hal/pm-utils) then, yes.
 > >  > 
 > >  > I must have been on different summit... I believe it is bad to tie
 > >  > s2ram to hal, because it makes testing on minimal system hard.
 > >  > 
 > >  > Anyway, what is the "default" way to trigger s2ram for Andrew? Perhaps
 > >  > Fedora already has his machine whitelisted...
 > > 
 > > There is no s2ram. pm-suspend uses the white/black-lists in pm-utils.
 > > Remember that? The cross-distro package everyone agreed was a good idea
 > > so that every distro didn't have their own magic utility ?
 > 
 > Well, we have cross-distro package, it is at suspend.sf.net , and it
 > can bring up video - which is kind of important. (It is single binary,
 > so it can be pagelocked -- which is important for s2disk).
 > 
 > Plus it does not depend on HAL.

Neither does pm-utils.  Once again for the hard of thinking..

The mechanism belongs in pm-utils.  HAL is just a fancy wrapper around that.
Don't want/like hal? fine, a smaller wrapper around pm-suspend and friends
is trivial (or even unnecessary if you're happy with running pm-suspend by hand)

        Dave

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