Paul Mackerras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> But the waiting process must have had an instance of /dev/ppp open and
> attached to the channel in order to be doing anything with rwait,
> within either ppp_file_read or ppp_poll.  The process of attaching to
> the channel increases its refcnt, meaning that the channel shouldn't
> be destroyed until the instance of /dev/ppp is closed and ppp_release
> is called.

Ugh...  I duplicated the hangs and verified my patch fixed them under
kernel 2.4.0 with "pppd" 2.3.11; and I also verified that kernel 2.4.2
with my patch and "pppd" 2.4.0f correctly deferred channel destruction
on modem hangup.  However, I forget to double-check that the hangs
were actually still possible with 2.4.2 and "pppd" 2.4.0f.

I didn't realize my specific hang was a peculiarity of the older
attachment style.  The channel created by pushing the PPP line
discipline onto a TTY was connected to a unit with a PPPIOCATTACH
ioctl on the TTY---this didn't really "attach" the channel; it still
had a refcnt of only one.  Through the old compatibility interface, it
was possible to call ppp_asynctty_read -> ppp_channel_read -> ppp_read
on the channel's "struct ppp_file" and wait on the channel's "rwait".
If the modem hung up, "do_tty_hangup" would call "ppp_asynctty_close"
(with a reader still in "ppp_asynctty_read") and the "struct channel"
would be freed in "ppp_unregister_channel".

I think your analysis of how things presently are with 2.4.2 and a
modern "pppd" is correct...

Since the new "pppd" uses an explicit PPPIOCATTCHAN / PPPIOCCONNECT
sequence, the refcnt gets bumped to 2 and stays there while the
channel is attached.  So, this specific hang isn't a problem anymore
for "ppp_async.c".  It's still a problem with "ppp_synctty.c", though
(when used with "pppd" 2.3.11, say).  Is the compatibility stuff in
there slated for removal, too?

> I presume that the generic file descriptor code ensures that the file
> release function doesn't get called while any task is inside the read
> or write function for that file, or while the file descriptor is in
> use in a select or poll.

It's not the file "release" function that's the problem.  It's the
line discipline's "close" call.  On a real hardware hangup, The kernel
thread "eventd" calls "do_tty_hangup" which grabs the big kernel lock
and calls ppp_asynctty_close.  I believe any line discipline or
"/dev/ppp" file function that sleeps (and so gives up its big kernel
lock) with refcnt == 1 is susceptible to having the "struct channel"
pulled out from under it.

In particular, the comment above "ppp_asynctty_close" is misleading.
It's true that the TTY layer won't call any further line discipline
entries while the "close" is executing; however, there may be
processes already sleeping in line discipline functions called before
the hangup.  For example, "ppp_asynctty_close" could be called while
we sleep in the "get_user" in "ppp_channel_ioctl" (called from
"ppp_asynctty_ioctl").  Therefore, calling "PPPIOCATTACH" on an
unattached PPP-disciplined TTY could, in unlikely circumstances
(argument swapped out), lead to a crash.

In fact, I think the only remaining PPP locking problem in
"ppp_async.c" still in 2.4.2 has to do with those PPPIOCATTACH/DETACH
ioctls for the TTY.  They seem to be the only way someone can
reference the "struct channel" of an unattached channel.

I assume PPPIOCATTACH (on the TTY) is deprecated in favor of
PPPIOCATTCHAN / PPPIOCCONNECT (on the "/dev/ppp" handle).  Can we
eliminate "ppp_channel_ioctl" from "ppp_async.c" entirely, as in the
patch below?  We're requiring people to upgrade to "pppd" 2.4.0
anyway, and it has no need for these calls.  This would give me a warm,
fuzzy feeling.

Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

                        *       *       *

--- linux-2.4.2/drivers/net/ppp_async.c Sun Mar  4 20:09:19 2001
+++ linux-2.4.2-local/drivers/net/ppp_async.c   Sat Mar 17 20:11:45 2001
@@ -244,11 +244,6 @@
                err = 0;
                break;
 
-       case PPPIOCATTACH:
-       case PPPIOCDETACH:
-               err = ppp_channel_ioctl(&ap->chan, cmd, arg);
-               break;
-
        default:
                err = -ENOIOCTLCMD;
        }
-
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