On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Hugh Dickins <hu...@google.com> wrote: > > When Paul reminded us of it yesterday, I came to wonder if actually > every use of ACCESS_ONCE in the read form should strictly be matched > by ACCESS_ONCE whenever modifying the location. > > My uneducated guess is that strictly it ought to, in the sense of > insurance policy; but that (apart from that strange split writing > issue which came up a couple of months ago) in practice our compilers > have not "advanced" to the point of making this an issue yet.
I don't see how a compiler could reasonably really ever do anything different, but I do think the ACCESS_ONCE() modification version might be a good thing just as a "documentation". This is a good example of this issue, exactly because we have a mix of both speculative cases (the find_vma() lookup and modification) together with strictly exclusive locked accesses to the same field (the ones that invalidate the cache under the write lock). So documenting that the write in find_vma() is this kind of "optimistic unlocked access" is actually a potentially interesting piece of information for programmers, completely independently of whether the compiler will then treat it really differently or not. Of course, a plain comment would do the same, but would be less greppable. And despite the verbiage here, I don't really have a very strong opinion on this. I'm going to let it go, and if somebody sends me a patch with a good explanation in the next merge window, I'll probably apply it. Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/