On Wed, 2013-06-26 at 14:36 -0700, Tim Chen wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-06-26 at 11:51 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: 
> > * Tim Chen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, 2013-06-19 at 09:53 -0700, Tim Chen wrote: 
> > > > On Wed, 2013-06-19 at 15:16 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > > vmstat for mutex implementation: 
> > > > > > procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- --system-- 
> > > > > > -----cpu-----
> > > > > >  r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in   cs 
> > > > > > us sy id wa st
> > > > > > 38  0      0 130957920  47860 199956    0    0     0    56 236342 
> > > > > > 476975 14 72 14  0  0
> > > > > > 41  0      0 130938560  47860 219900    0    0     0     0 236816 
> > > > > > 479676 14 72 14  0  0
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > vmstat for rw-sem implementation (3.10-rc4)
> > > > > > procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- --system-- 
> > > > > > -----cpu-----
> > > > > >  r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in   cs 
> > > > > > us sy id wa st
> > > > > > 40  0      0 130933984  43232 202584    0    0     0     0 321817 
> > > > > > 690741 13 71 16  0  0
> > > > > > 39  0      0 130913904  43232 224812    0    0     0     0 322193 
> > > > > > 692949 13 71 16  0  0
> > > > > 
> > > > > It appears the main difference is that the rwsem variant 
> > > > > context-switches 
> > > > > about 36% more than the mutex version, right?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm wondering how that's possible - the lock is mostly write-locked, 
> > > > > correct? So the lock-stealing from Davidlohr Bueso and Michel 
> > > > > Lespinasse 
> > > > > ought to have brought roughly the same lock-stealing behavior as 
> > > > > mutexes 
> > > > > do, right?
> > > > > 
> > > > > So the next analytical step would be to figure out why rwsem 
> > > > > lock-stealing 
> > > > > is not behaving in an equivalent fashion on this workload. Do readers 
> > > > > come 
> > > > > in frequently enough to disrupt write-lock-stealing perhaps?
> > > 
> > > Ingo, 
> > > 
> > > I did some instrumentation on the write lock failure path.  I found that
> > > for the exim workload, there are no readers blocking for the rwsem when
> > > write locking failed.  The lock stealing is successful for 9.1% of the
> > > time and the rest of the write lock failure caused the writer to go to
> > > sleep.  About 1.4% of the writers sleep more than once. Majority of the
> > > writers sleep once.
> > > 
> > > It is weird that lock stealing is not successful more often.
> > 
> > For this to be comparable to the mutex scalability numbers you'd have to 
> > compare wlock-stealing _and_ adaptive spinning for failed-wlock rwsems.
> > 
> > Are both techniques applied in the kernel you are running your tests on?
> > 
> 
> Ingo,
> 
> The previous experiment was done on a kernel without spinning. 
> I've redone the testing on two kernel for a 15 sec stretch of the
> workload run.  One with the adaptive (or optimistic) 
> spinning and the other without.  Both have the patches from Alex to avoid 
> cmpxchg induced cache bouncing.
> 
> With the spinning, I sleep much less for lock acquisition (18.6% vs 91.58%).
> However, I've got doubling of write lock acquisition getting
> blocked.  So that offset the gain from spinning which may be why
> I didn't see gain for this particular workload.
> 
>                                               No Opt Spin     Opt Spin
> Writer acquisition blocked count              3448946         7359040
> Blocked by reader                             0.00%           0.55%
> Lock acquired first attempt (lock stealing)   8.42%           16.92%
> Lock acquired second attempt (1 sleep)                90.26%          17.60%
> Lock acquired after more than 1 sleep         1.32%           1.00%
> Lock acquired with optimistic spin            N/A             64.48%
> 

Adding also the mutex statistics for the 3.10-rc4 kernel with mutex
implemenation of lock for anon_vma tree.  Wonder if Ingo has any
insight on why mutex performs better from these stats.

Mutex acquisition blocked count                 14380340
Lock acquired in slowpath (no sleep)            0.06%
Lock acquired in slowpath (1 sleep)             0.24%
Lock acquired in slowpath more than 1 sleep     0.98%
Lock acquired with optimistic spin              99.6%

Thanks.

Tim

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