On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 08:54:48PM +0200, azurIt wrote:
> >On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 02:33:05PM +0200, azurIt wrote:
> >> >On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:32:47PM +0200, azurIt wrote:
> >> >> >On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:08:53PM +0200, azurIt wrote:
> >> >> >> >On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 09:32:53PM +0200, azurIt wrote:
> >> >> >> >> Here is full kernel log between 6:00 and 7:59:
> >> >> >> >> http://watchdog.sk/lkml/kern6.log
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Wow, your apaches are like the hydra.  Whenever one is OOM killed,
> >> >> >> >more show up!
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> Yeah, it's supposed to do this ;)
> >> >
> >> >How are you expecting the machine to recover from an OOM situation,
> >> >though?  I guess I don't really understand what these machines are
> >> >doing.  But if you are overloading them like crazy, isn't that the
> >> >expected outcome?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> There's no global OOM, server has enough of memory. OOM is occuring only 
> >> in cgroups (customers who simply don't want to pay for more memory).
> >
> >Yes, sure, but when the cgroups are thrashing, they use the disk and
> >CPU to the point where the overall system is affected.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Didn't know that there is a disk usage because of this, i never noticed 
> anything yet.

You said there was heavy IO going on...?

> >Okay, my suspicion is that the previous patches invoked the OOM killer
> >right away, whereas in this latest version it's invoked only when the
> >fault is finished.  Maybe the task that locked the group gets held up
> >somewhere else and then it takes too long until something is actually
> >killed.  Meanwhile, every other allocator drops into 5 reclaim cycles
> >before giving up, which could explain the thrashing.  And on the memcg
> >level we don't have BDI congestion sleeps like on the global level, so
> >everybody is backing off from the disk.
> >
> >Here is an incremental fix to the latest version, i.e. the one that
> >livelocked under heavy IO, not the one you are using right now.
> >
> >First, it reduces the reclaim retries from 5 to 2, which resembles the
> >global kswapd + ttfp somewhat.  Next, NOFS/NORETRY allocators are not
> >allowed to kick off the OOM killer, like in the global case, so that
> >we don't kill things and give up just because light reclaim can't free
> >anything.  Last, the memcg is marked under OOM when one task enters
> >OOM so that not everybody is livelocking in reclaim in a hopeless
> >situation.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you i will boot it this night. I also created a new server load 
> checking and recuing script so i hope i won't be forced to hard reboot the 
> server in case something similar as before happens. Btw, patch didn't apply 
> to 3.2.51, there were probably big changes in memory system (almost all hunks 
> failed). I used 3.2.50 as before.

Yes, please don't change the test base in the middle of this!
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