On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 18:26:23 +0000 (UTC) "Artem S. Tashkinov"
<t.ar...@lycos.com> wrote:

> Oct 25, 2013 05:26:45 PM, david wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Oct 2013, NeilBrown wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> What exactly is bothering you about this?  The amount of memory used or the
> >> time until data is flushed?
> >
> >actually, I think the problem is more the impact of the huge write later on.
> 
> Exactly. And not being able to use applications which show you IO performance
> like Midnight Commander. You might prefer to use "cp -a" but I cannot imagine
> my life without being able to see the progress of a copying operation. With 
> the current
> dirty cache there's no way to understand how you storage media actually 
> behaves.

So fix Midnight Commander.  If you want the copy to be actually finished when
it says  it is finished, then it needs to call 'fsync()' at the end.

> 
> Hopefully this issue won't dissolve into obscurity and someone will actually 
> make
> up a plan (and a patch) how to make dirty write cache behave in a sane manner
> considering the fact that there are devices with very different write speeds 
> and
> requirements. It'd be ever better, if I could specify dirty cache as a mount 
> option
> (though sane defaults or semi-automatic values based on runtime estimates
> won't hurt).
> 
> Per device dirty cache seems like a nice idea, I, for one, would like to 
> disable it
> altogether or make it an absolute minimum for things like USB flash drives - 
> because
> I don't care about multithreaded performance or delayed allocation on such 
> devices -
> I'm interested in my data reaching my USB stick ASAP - because it's how most 
> people
> use them.
>

As has already been said, you can substantially disable  the cache by tuning
down various values in /proc/sys/vm/.
Have you tried?

NeilBrown

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