On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 05:23:51PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > On Sat, 23 Nov 2013, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Thomas Gleixner <t...@linutronix.de> wrote: > > > > > > Now the question is why we queue the waiter _AFTER_ reading the user > > > space value. The comment in the code is pretty non sensical: > > > > > > * On the other hand, we insert q and release the hash-bucket only > > > * after testing *uaddr. This guarantees that futex_wait() will NOT > > > * absorb a wakeup if *uaddr does not match the desired values > > > * while the syscall executes. > > > > > > There is no reason why we cannot queue _BEFORE_ reading the user space > > > value. We just have to dequeue in all the error handling cases, but > > > for the fast path it does not matter at all. > > > > > > CPU 0 CPU 1 > > > > > > val = *futex; > > > futex_wait(futex, val); > > > > > > spin_lock(&hb->lock); > > > > > > plist_add(hb, self); > > > smp_wmb(); > > > > > > uval = *futex; > > > *futex = newval; > > > futex_wake(); > > > > > > smp_rmb(); > > > if (plist_empty(hb)) > > > return; > > > ... > > > > This would seem to be a nicer approach indeed, without needing the > > extra atomics. > > I went through the issue with Peter and he noticed, that we need > smp_mb() in both places. That's what we have right now with the > spin_lock() and it is required as we need to guarantee that > > The waiter observes the change to the uaddr value after it added > itself to the plist > > The waker observes plist not empty if the change to uaddr was made > after the waiter checked the value. > > > write(plist) | write(futex_uaddr) > mb() | mb() > read(futex_uaddr) | read(plist) > > The spin_lock mb() on the waiter side does not help here because it > happpens before the write(plist) and not after it.
Ah, note that spin_lock() is only a smp_mb() on x86, in general its an ACQUIRE barrier which is weaker than a full mb and will not suffice in this case even it if were in the right place. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/