Hi all,

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I'm not sure if this is an LVM issue or a MM issue. I rather think it's the latter, and I'll explain why, towards the end of this email.

I'm running a qemu virtual machine, 2 x i686 with 2GB RAM. VM's disks are managed via LVM2. Most disk activity is on one LV, formatted as ext4. Backups are taken using snapshots, and at the time of the problem that I am about to describe, there were ten of them, or so. OS is Ubuntu 12.04 with current everything. Kernel was 3.8.0-42-generic, by Canonical's reckoning, and I've possibly reproduced it with a vanilla 3.14.7-031407-generic from kernel.ubuntu.com. Applications include CUPS, SSH, Samba, Denyhosts and an accounting package compiled using RM-COBOL. Normally the system runs with no use of swap (2GB configured) and about half of physical RAM free. CPU usage is normally around 99.9% idle. This is not a demanding application for the machine!

Physical machine is 8 x amd64, 32GB RAM, Ubuntu 14.04, kernel 3.13.0-24-generic. I mention this, but think it not relevant.

The problem presented as machine unavailable. It would accept connections on SSH, but Openssh did not display it's banner (SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.9p1 Debian-5ubuntu1.2.) All terminals froze and, having configured ServerAlive*, eventually disconnected.

The VM was configured using libvirt, which showed that machine running at 200% CPU usage; i.e. 100% x 2 CPUs.

As the machine was mission critical, I elected to kill and restart it. I suspect I would have had no alternative, even had I had the luxury of unlimited time to investigate. After restart, I (predictably) found nothing unusual in the logs.

Part of the restart process included running a program to "clear 98 errors" (clear98.) It produced some output as it went, but didn't complete: the machine again went in to this "busy" state. I restarted the machine and noticed that a couple of snapshots had reached 100% on their COW tables, removed them and reran clear98, with the same results: machine became unresponsive and busy. Actually, I think it got slightly further, but not by much. Restarting again, I found another snapshot had reached 100% on COW table, removed it, and reran clear98. Whilst running, I kept an eye on snapshots and removed them as they exceeded 85% on COW table. Accordingly, all snapshots were removed and the program completed successfully.

Examining syslog, I found that later incidents were caused by out of memory condition. The process identified by oom-killer was unrelated to clear98 (it was a bash script invoked by an incoming SSH connection.)

Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952607] Mem-Info:
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952609] DMA per-cpu:
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952611] CPU    0: hi:    0, btch:   1 
usd:   0
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952612] CPU    1: hi:    0, btch:   1 
usd:   0
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952613] Normal per-cpu:
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952615] CPU    0: hi:  186, btch:  31 
usd:   0
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952616] CPU    1: hi:  186, btch:  31 
usd:   0
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952617] HighMem per-cpu:
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952618] CPU    0: hi:  186, btch:  31 
usd:   0
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952620] CPU    1: hi:  186, btch:  31 
usd:   0
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952623] active_anon:11693 
inactive_anon:11899 isolated_anon:0
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952623]  active_file:152931 
inactive_file:100402 isolated_file:0
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952623]  unevictable:0 dirty:5 
writeback:8204 unstable:0
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952623]  free:23425 
slab_reclaimable:2164 slab_unreclaimable:121333
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952623]  mapped:5100 shmem:173 
pagetables:1076 bounce:0
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952623]  free_cma:0
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952630] DMA free:4068kB min:784kB 
low:980kB high:1176kB active_anon:0kB inactive_anon:0kB active_file:0kB 
inactive_file:0kB unevictable:0kB isolated(anon):0kB isolated(file):0kB 
present:15804kB managed:15916kB mlocked:0kB dirty:0kB writeback:0kB mapped:0kB 
shmem:0kB slab_reclaimable:0kB slab_unreclaimable:8788kB kernel_stack:40kB 
pagetables:0kB unstable:0kB bounce:0kB free_cma:0kB writeback_tmp:0kB 
pages_scanned:0 all_unreclaimable? yes
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952631] lowmem_reserve[]: 0 869 2016 2016
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952638] Normal free:43464kB min:44216kB 
low:55268kB high:66324kB active_anon:0kB inactive_anon:0kB active_file:0kB 
inactive_file:104kB unevictable:0kB isolated(anon):0kB isolated(file):0kB 
present:890008kB managed:844872kB mlocked:0kB dirty:0kB writeback:0kB 
mapped:4kB shmem:0kB slab_reclaimable:8656kB slab_unreclaimable:476544kB 
kernel_stack:2904kB pagetables:284kB unstable:0kB bounce:0kB free_cma:0kB 
writeback_tmp:0kB pages_scanned:156 all_unreclaimable? yes
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952640] lowmem_reserve[]: 0 0 9175 9175
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952646] HighMem free:46168kB min:512kB 
low:15100kB high:29688kB active_anon:46772kB inactive_anon:47596kB 
active_file:611764kB inactive_file:401504kB unevictable:0kB isolated(anon):0kB 
isolated(file):0kB present:1174496kB managed:1183744kB mlocked:0kB dirty:20kB 
writeback:32816kB mapped:20396kB shmem:692kB slab_reclaimable:0kB 
slab_unreclaimable:0kB kernel_stack:0kB pagetables:4020kB unstable:0kB 
bounce:0kB free_cma:0kB writeback_tmp:0kB pages_scanned:0 all_unreclaimable? no
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952648] lowmem_reserve[]: 0 0 0 0
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952651] DMA: 1*4kB (U) 10*8kB (U) 1*16kB 
(U) 0*32kB 0*64kB 1*128kB (U) 1*256kB (U) 1*512kB (U) 1*1024kB (U) 1*2048kB (R) 
0*4096kB = 4068kB
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952662] Normal: 8483*4kB (UEM) 490*8kB 
(UM) 20*16kB (UM) 0*32kB 0*64kB 0*128kB 1*256kB (R) 0*512kB 1*1024kB (R) 
0*2048kB 1*4096kB (R) = 43548kB
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952672] HighMem: 2055*4kB (UM) 1392*8kB 
(UM) 609*16kB (UM) 113*32kB (UM) 23*64kB (UM) 2*128kB (M) 0*256kB 5*512kB (U) 
5*1024kB (UM) 0*2048kB 1*4096kB (R) = 46220kB
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952683] 253700 total pagecache pages
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952684] 172 pages in swap cache
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952686] Swap cache stats: add 2452, 
delete 2280, find 45/71
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952687] Free swap  = 2084224kB
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.952688] Total swap = 2093052kB
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.958154] 524270 pages RAM
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.958159] 295936 pages HighMem
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.958160] 8063 pages reserved
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.958161] 339808 pages shared
Jun 11 11:50:17 crowies kernel: [  838.958162] 463884 pages non-shared


To investigate this problem further, I cloned the VM, created 15 snapshots, and copied the largest file. The cp process did not complete. The oom-killer was invoked, which killed a number of processes, including all login shells and the cp process. I was able to log in again; no restart was required. Snapshots had used around 26% of COW tables. I repeated this test a few times with the same general results.

I installed a vanilla kernel, version 3.14.7, and repeated the test with, again, the same general results except that my login shells were not killed. They were unresponsive for a period, other than echoing keystrokes, but eventually the cp process was killed and they became responsive again. In particular, I was not able to suspect (^Z) nor kill (^C) the running process.

I suspect that COW tables reaching 100% use is irrelevant.

I think what occurred was that I was writing to the underlying LV at a rate greater than the system was able to populate snapshots' COW tables; that the data being written was cached in RAM (but not swap) until free RAM was exhausted, and that the oom-killer started killing unrelated processes. Probably, the clear98 program happened to never be targeted by oom-killer, and probably it was responsible for the 200% CPU usage, thus starving all other tasks, especially sshd, of CPU-time.

It's hard to say whether LVM or VM is most to blame for this, but I'm tempted to say that VM victimises unrelated processes when out of memory. Admittedly this argument is confused by the intervention of various kernel modules between the culpable process and the VM subsystem, but the general problem of OOM killing unrelated processes is easily demonstrated and frequently occurs in practice. It seems to me that allowing over-commitment of memory is begging for exactly this sort of confusing result.

Let me be clear: Process A requests memory; processes B & C are killed; where B & C later become D, E & F!

I feel that over-committing memory is a foolish and odious practice, and makes problem determination very much harder than it need be. When a process requests memory, if that cannot be satisfied the system should return an error and that be the end of it.

No doubt there are settings to control this, which settings I shall use, however the topic is sufficiently serious that a general discussion is, I think, more than warranted. Let me propose that a malicious program could fork and request memory such that every process other than itself was killed. Possible?

Returning to the problem that I experienced, even without over-committing memory, I expect I would still get OOM condition because LVM, apparently, is consuming memory. So there seems to be a problem to be solved, there, too. Again, let me propose that a malicious program could write data at a sufficient rate to trigger this problem if snapshots are in use, and that it could also remove the files that it creates, as it goes, so as to make it difficult to detect what it is doing. In particular, it could remain under any arbitrary disk quota.

Actual use of snapshots seems to beg denial of service.

Hoping for some pearls of wisdom...

David
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