--- Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greg KH wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 05:15:36PM -0800, Linus Torvalds > wrote: > > > > > > But when pressed about the issue of speed of development, > rate of > > change, feature increase, driver updates, and so on, no one > else has any > > clue of what to do. They respond with, "but only put > bugfixes into a > > stable release." My comeback is explaining how we handle > lots of > > different types of bugfixes, by api changes, real fixes, and > driver > > updates for new hardware. Sometimes these cause other bugs > to happen, > > or just get shaken out where they were previously hiding > (acpi is a > > great example of this issue.) In the end, they usually fall > back on > > muttering, "well, I'm just glad that I'm not a kernel > developer..." and > > back away. > > The pertinent question for a point release (2.6.X.Y) would > simply be > "does a 2.6.11 user really need this fix?" >
no. If something is not working in 2.6.11 i will switch to 2.6.10 ;-) and _maybe_ report a bug > > > Like I previously said, I think we're doing a great job. > The current > > -mm staging area could use some more testers to help weed > out the real > > issues, and we could do "real" releases a bit faster than > every 2 months > > or so. But other than that, we have adapted over the years > to handle > > this extremely high rate of change in a pretty sane manner. > > I think Linus's "even/odd" proposal is an admission that 2.6.X > releases > need some important fixes after it hits kernel.org. > > Otherwise 2.6.X is simply a constantly indeterminent state. > Let me tell you what i understood from this thread: 2.6.12 "almost stable" 2.6.13 devel (new drivers,fixes and stuff -- may be broken) 2.6.14 (based on 2.6.13) tries to became stable again 2.6.15 also devel (see above) 2.6.16 (based on 2.6.15) also tries to became stable again So we will _want_ to have a stable kernel (like 2.4 now) but this will never happen (see above) > We need to serve users, not just make life easier for kernel > developers ;-) > You said it. Hopefully you will make our life easier and we (as testers) will make your's. > Jeff > -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in. Kim Alm on a.s.r. Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail : 250 Mo d'espace de stockage pour vos mails ! Créez votre Yahoo! Mail sur http://fr.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/