Hi, On 2014-07-29 15:52:46 +0900, Namhyung Kim wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 21:23:26 +0200, Andres Freund wrote: > > On 2014-05-29 12:58:25 +0900, Namhyung Kim wrote: > >> Now perf top and perf report will show children column by default if > >> it has callchain information. > >> > >> Requested-by: Ingo Molnar <[email protected]> > >> Tested-by: Rodrigo Campos <[email protected]> > >> Tested-by: Arun Sharma <[email protected]> > >> Acked-by: Jiri Olsa <[email protected]> > >> Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <[email protected]> > >> Signed-off-by: Namhyung Kim <[email protected]> > > > > Stupid question: Why? This breaks user's usage pattern in a rather > > significant way because the new output is pretty much entirely useless > > in many cases, especially for userland programs. I think the new option > > is great, but why is it suddenly the default? > > Yes, I knew it'd annoy some existing users like you :) But I hoped it'd > be useful for new and (at least, some of) old users to see children/ > cumulative overheads by default. If it lies under an option, it > wouldn't have a chance to be used by normal users who simply run perf > record and report most of time.
By that argument every new feature would need to be enabled by default. Which normally isn't what happens. > If you think it's entirely useless for you cases, you can set it to off > using ~/.perfconfig file: > > [report] > children = false Already done that ;). The problem is still that I can't use --no-children on older systems, so I can't write benchmarking scripts anymore that don't take depend on the perf version... I guess it's too late to argue effectively though :) Greetings, Andres Freund -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [email protected] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

