Thanks!
On 2014/10/24 23:19, Rick Jones wrote:
> On 10/24/2014 12:41 AM, Zhangjie (HZ) wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I use netperf to test the performance of small tcp package, with TCP_NODELAY 
>> set :
>>
>> netperf -H 129.9.7.164 -l 100 -- -m 512 -D
>>
>> Among the packages I got by tcpdump, there is not only small packages, also 
>> lost of
>> big ones (skb->len=65160).
>>
>> IP 129.9.7.186.60840 > 129.9.7.164.34607: tcp 65160
>> IP 129.9.7.164.34607 > 129.9.7.186.60840: tcp 0
>> IP 129.9.7.164.34607 > 129.9.7.186.60840: tcp 0
>> IP 129.9.7.164.34607 > 129.9.7.186.60840: tcp 0
>> IP 129.9.7.186.60840 > 129.9.7.164.34607: tcp 65160
>> IP 129.9.7.164.34607 > 129.9.7.186.60840: tcp 0
>> IP 129.9.7.164.34607 > 129.9.7.186.60840: tcp 0
>> IP 129.9.7.164.34607 > 129.9.7.186.60840: tcp 0
>> IP 129.9.7.186.60840 > 129.9.7.164.34607: tcp 80
>> IP 129.9.7.186.60840 > 129.9.7.164.34607: tcp 512
>> IP 129.9.7.186.60840 > 129.9.7.164.34607: tcp 512
>>
>> SO, how to test small tcp packages? Including TCP_NODELAY, What else should 
>> be set?
> 
> Well, I don't think there is anything else you can set.  Even with 
> TCP_NODELAY set, segment size with TCP will still be controlled by factors 
> such as congestion window.
> 
> I am ass-u-me-ing your packet trace is at the sender.  I suppose if your 
> sender were fast enough compared to the path that might combine with 
> congestion window to result in the very large segments.
> 
> Not to say there cannot be a bug somewhere with TSO overriding TCP_NODELAY, 
> but in broad terms, even TCP_NODELAY does not guarantee small TCP segments.  
> That has been something of a bane on my attempts to use TCP for aggregate 
> small-packet performance measurements via netperf for quite some time.
> 
> And since you seem to have included a virtualization mailing list I would 
> also ass-u-me that virtualization is involved somehow.  Knuth only knows how 
> that will affect the timing of events, which will be very much involved in 
> matters of congestion window and such.  I suppose it is even possible that if 
> the packet trace is on a VM receiver that some delays in getting the VM 
> running could mean that GRO would end-up making large segments being pushed 
> up the stack.
> 
> happy benchmarking,
Yes. Using netperf to send tcp packages frome physical nic has the same 
problems.
Thanks for your explanation!
> 
> rick jones
> .
> 

-- 
Best Wishes!
Zhang Jie

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