On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 17:55 +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 02/10, Ian Kent wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 2015-02-09 at 17:03 +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > >
> > > I understand. but I still can't understand why we can't implement 
> > > something
> > > like
> > >   enter_ns(struct nsproxy *p)
> > >   {
> > >           new_nsproxy = create_new_namespaces(...);
> > >
> > >           p->mnt_ns->ns->ops->install(new_nsproxy, ...);
> > >           p->pid_ns_for_children->ns->ops->install(new_nsproxy, ...);
> > >           ...
> > >
> > >           switch_task_namespaces(new_nsproxy);
> > >   }
> > >
> > > Why we should abuse fs/proc ?
> >
> > That sounds like a much better approach.
> > Your saying just take a reference to the nsproxy from the located
> > process and use it instead, right?
> 
> Yes,
> 
> > Working out if there's a difference with what you from the open is
> > challenging (I already tried), I'll have another go at it.
> 
> I thinks there should not be any difference, but please re-check ;)
> 
> > > And. Whatever we do, ops->install() or setns_inode() can't solve the 
> > > problem with
> > > pid_ns. You need the additional clone() to "activate" it. pidns_install() 
> > > does not
> > > actually change task_active_pid_ns().
> >
> > Right, but all this is done in preparation for the following do_execve()
> > call. Isn't that enough or am I missing something?
> 
> Yes, but do_execve() doesn't (and shouldn't) change task_active_pid_ns(). Note
> the ->pid_ns_for_children's name. It is only used by 
> copy_process()->alloc_pid().

Right, I vaguely recall seeing something like this earlier in the fork
procedure, I get it. I'll need to have a another look at it.

> 
> task_active_pid_ns() uses task_pid() and we obviously can't change it.
> 
> I am wondering if we can do something like
> 
>       kernel_thread_in_ns(struct nsproxy *ns, ...)
>       {
>               struct nsproxy *saved_ns = current->nsproxy;
>               pid_t pid;
> 
>               task_lock(current);
>               current->nsproxy = ns;
>               task_unlock(current);
> 
>               pid = kernel_thread(...);
> 
>               task_lock(current);
>               current->nsproxy = saved_ns;
>               task_unlock(current);
> 
>               return pid;
>       }
> 
> used by __call_usermodehelper/wait_for_helper, instead of "enter_ns" from
> sub_info->init()...

Again, thanks for the suggestions.
You've given me a few things think about and check out.

Ian

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