Am Donnerstag, 6. August 2015, 10:04:57 schrieb David Herrmann: > > Given that all existing prototype userspace that I'm aware of > > > > (systemd and its consumers) apparently opts in, I don't really care > > that the feature is opt-in. > > This is just plain wrong. Out of the dozens of dbus applications, you > found like 9 which are buggy? Two of them are already fixed, the > maintainers of the other ones notified. > I'd be interested where you got this notion that "all existing > prototype userspace [...] opts in".
But these few can create the issues Andy described? Sure, one can argue I can setup a stress or stress-ng command line invocation as root user that will basically grind a Linux system to a halt – and in a way I consider this to be a bug in the kernel as well, but one that exists since a long time. But a GUI application running as a user? How about some robustness regarding what you see as bugs in userspace here? I think "The bug is not mine" is exactly the same language we have seen here before. If the kernel relies on bug-free userspace applications in order to do its job properly I think it has robustness issues. One certainly wouldn´t want this with any mission critical realtime OS. I think it is the kernel that should be in control. Thanks, -- Martin -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/