* H. Peter Anvin <h...@zytor.com> wrote:

> On 08/17/2015 10:17 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 9:58 AM, H. Peter Anvin <h...@zytor.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> That is not true.  It *does* work, and I have tested it fairly recently.
> > 
> > Ok, so it's not too badly broken. Good.
> > 
> > Also, while it's been a long time since we needed FPU emulation on the
> > i486sx, I don't recall the details of any of the (much more modern)
> > IoT small cores. I *think* the base platforms are all at a Pentium
> > level (ie not just FPU, but MMX), but maybe there's some reason to
> > keep FP emulation alive for some platforms.
> > 
> 
> I just went back and looked at my records... I can guarantee that it
> worked as of 743aa456c1834f76982af44e8b71d1a0b2a82e21.

So I went and built 743aa456c1834f76 with ARCH=i386 defconfig +MATH_EMULATION=y 
and booted it on real hardware with and without 'no387':

  - 743aa456c1834f76:         boots fine to a generic distro
  - 743aa456c1834f76 + no387: early crash

the early crash is similar to what I saw when doing the recent FPU changes (and 
which crash I fixed):

[    0.000000] Linux version 3.7.0+ (mingo@fomalhaut) (gcc version 4.9.2 
20150212 (Red Hat 4.9.2-6) (GCC) ) #284 SMP Wed Aug 19 07:51:05 CEST 2015       
                             
...
[    0.000000] Inode-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)   
                                                                                
                      
[    0.000000] __ex_table already sorted, skipping sort                         
                                                                                
                      
[    0.000000] Initializing CPU#0                                               
                                                                                
                      
[    0.000000] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at   
(null)                              
...
[    0.000000] EIP is at kmem_cache_alloc+0x25/0x110                            
                                                                                
                      
[    0.000000] Call Trace:                                                      
                                                                                
                      
[    0.000000]  [<c048a1fc>] ? sprintf+0x1c/0x20                                
                                                                                
                      
[    0.000000]  [<c020a11f>] ? init_fpu+0x7f/0xc0                               
                                                                                
                      
[    0.000000]  [<c0235aef>] ? print_prefix+0xcf/0x130                          
                                                                                
                      
[    0.000000]  [<c08b0d20>] ? do_debug+0x160/0x160                             
                                                                                
                      
[    0.000000]  [<c020a11f>] init_fpu+0x7f/0xc0                                 
                                                                                
                      
[    0.000000]  [<c0730df5>] math_emulate+0x6b5/0xc90                        
[    0.000000]  [<c08b0d58>] do_device_not_available+0x38/0x60                  
                                                                                
                      
[    0.000000]  [<c08b0752>] error_code+0x5a/0x60                               
                                                                                
                      
[    0.000000]  [<c08b0d20>] ? do_debug+0x160/0x160                             
                                                                                
                      
[    0.000000]  [<c08a29e7>] ? fpu_init+0xd9/0xf7                               
                                                                                
                      
[    0.000000]  [<c08a475e>] cpu_init+0x237/0x23f                               
                                                                                
                      
[    0.000000]  [<c0b324f2>] trap_init+0x243/0x24b                              
                                                                                
                      
[    0.000000]  [<c0b30759>] start_kernel+0x143/0x2d4                           
                                                                                
                      
[    0.000000]  [<c0b302a0>] i386_start_kernel+0x76/0x7b                        
            

And I think this early crash bug was introduced 7+ years ago in March 2008, 
when 
the FPU context area was separated from the task struct and its allocation went 
dynamic:

  61c4628b5386 ("x86, fpu: split FPU state from task struct - v5")

... but that's just a guess, I couldn't check that as kernels that far back 
don't 
build and boot anymore with modern tooling.

Thanks,

        Ingo
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