On Nov 19 2006 07:13, Oleg Verych wrote:
>On Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 12:24:14AM +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
>> On Nov 18 2006 21:51, Oleg Verych wrote:
>> >On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 08:30:02PM +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
>> >> >Then, who you think prints that "Killed" or "Segmentation fault"
>> >> >messages in *stderr*?
>> >> >[Hint: libc's default signal handler (man 2 signal).]
>> >>
>> >> Please enlighten us on how you plan to catch the uncatchable SIGKILL.
>> >
>> >Here's question of getting information. Collecting information is
>> >possible by `waitpid()' from parent process as Miquel noted.
>>
>> Yes, that is true. However that would involve adding support for This
>> Situation to the parent process. Which is where it becomes tricky. Patch
>> /sbin/init, in case the daemon runs like everything else. Or patch
>> xinetd, in case it is run from within that. Or, ...
>> The 'problem' with the waitpid solution is that you would need to
>> patch every possible parent that may become the owner of The Sigkilled
>> Target.
>
>I think this is pure userspace admin issue, one wrapper shell script
>for not programmers.
>
>I'm not sure about init, you've told. For example, in Debian daemons are
>run by start-stop-daemon function in LSB package. And in proposed LSB
>standard <http://refspecs.freestandards.org/LSB_3.1.0/LSB-Core-generic/>
>portable start_daemon, killproc, pidofproc funcions are described.
But usually the start wrapper will succeed, and the daemon will
eventually get reparented to init. At least this is the case in
LSB-compliant distros like opensuse and fedora.
-`J'
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