Hi Andy,
Am Dienstag, den 26.05.2009, 21:38 -0400 schrieb Andy Walls:
> Hi Martin,
>
> For some reason, I'm not getting any of your replies to the lists. (I'm
> getting Hermann's posts though)
that is something I have seen since the beginning of changing to vger
too and it is very annoying.
>
> On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 23:45 +0200, hermann pitton wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Am Montag, den 25.05.2009, 21:34 +0200 schrieb Martin Dauskardt:
> > > > #define TUNER_PHILIPS_FQ1216ME 24 /* you must actively
> > > > select
> > > B/G/D/K, I, L, L` */
> > > > #define TUNER_PHILIPS_FQ1216AME_MK4 56 /* Hauppauge PVR-150
> > > > PAL */
> > > >
> > > > #define TUNER_PHILIPS_FM1216ME_MK3 38
> > > >
> > > > #define TUNER_PHILIPS_FMD1216ME_MK3 63
> > > > #define TUNER_PHILIPS_FMD1216MEX_MK3 78
> > > > #define TUNER_PHILIPS_FM1216MK5 79
> > > >
> > > > Could the user try one of those, starting with the FQ1216 tuner numbers
> > > > (24 and 56), to see if one of them works? For the FQ1261LME MK3,
> > > > tveeprom has the FM1216ME_MK3 tuner number (38).
> > > >
> > >
> > > I have this card now at home for testing. First results:
> > >
> > > #define TUNER_PHILIPS_FQ1216ME 24 /* you must actively
> > > select B/G/D/K, I, L,
> > > Result: only static
> > >
> > > #define TUNER_PHILIPS_FM1216ME_MK3 38
> > > result: picture + sound o.k.
> > >
> > > #define TUNER_PHILIPS_FQ1216AME_MK4 56 /* Hauppauge PVR-150
> > > PAL */
> > > result: picture o.k., but no sound
> > >
> > > #define TUNER_PHILIPS_FMD1216ME_MK3 63
> > > result: picture + sound o.k.
> > >
> > > #define TUNER_PHILIPS_FMD1216MEX_MK3 78
> > > result: picture + sound o.k.
> > >
> > > #define TUNER_PHILIPS_FM1216MK5 79
> > > result: picture o.k. , but audio disappears every few seconds (for about
> > > 1-2
> > > seconds, then comes back)
> > >
> > > tuner type 63 and 79 are Hybrid tuners. This is fore sure an
> > > analogue-only
> > > tuner. The sticker says "Multi-PAL", and according to VIDIOC_ENUMSTD it
> > > supports PAL, PAL-BG and PAL-H.
>
> Yes, the hybrid tuners defintions obviously aren't right. Sorry I
> missed that with my initial suggestions. I'm not sure that I would
> believe what VIDIOC_ENUMSTD reports without a proper tuner definition (I
> haven't looked up the details on what the ioctl actually does though).
>
>
> > > So I think 38 is right. Any suggestions for further tests?
>
> When you don't specifiy a tuner number at all, does the driver loading
> detect a tda988x chip?
>
> With tuner type 24, does setting the video standard explicitly with
>
> v4l2-ctl -s pal-B
>
> or something similar help?
>
>
> Anyway, it looks like Hermann has already got a better idea of what the
> tuner definition might be. (I haven't been keeping up with the
> conversation. If you and Hermann can figure out something faster,
> off-list using German, I won't be offended by being left out of the
> conversation.)
>
> Regards,
> Andy
Andy, please stay. You are most welcome.
Sorry, always late looking at this, I don't care much about better
English, but likely should do.
Cheers,
Hermann
>
> > in my opinion the entry of tuner type 24 is buggy.
> > I posted once about it, but it is long ago.
> >
> > /* ------------ TUNER_PHILIPS_FQ1216ME - Philips PAL ------------ */
> >
> > static struct tuner_params tuner_philips_fq1216me_params[] = {
> > {
> > .type = TUNER_PARAM_TYPE_PAL,
> > .ranges = tuner_lg_pal_ranges,
> > .count = ARRAY_SIZE(tuner_lg_pal_ranges),
> > .has_tda9887 = 1,
> > .port1_active = 1,
> > .port2_active = 1,
> > .port2_invert_for_secam_lc = 1,
> > },
> > };
> >
> > At least tuner_lg_pal_ranges must be wrong for an MK3 and UHF should
> > fail, if you can test on that. Switch must be 0x04 and not 0x08.
> >
> > The hybrid tuners are also not compatible to an FM1216ME/I MK3.
> > They miss some frequencies when used for such an one and some low VHF
> > channels are snowy. The tda9887 is also not visible on them without
> > special initialization in tuner-core.c for them. Likely not the case on
> > yours.
> >
> > FQ types from Philips are without radio support. FM types have radio.
> > Also the FMD1216MEX_MK3 has a different radio IF, BTW.
> >
> > Previously I did recommend tuner 56 for them, but now with the more
> > detailed tda988/5/6/7 settings it misses .port2_active = 1.
> > Hans likely knows that it is right and else we would have reports from
> > people using it I guess. Hm.
> >
> > You could test with tda9887 port2=0, if you get sound on that one too.
> >
> > If the entry is correct and can't be changed, we likely need a new tuner
> > entry or the TUNER_PHILIPS_FQ1216ME must use mk3 ranges on UHF. But on
> > that one I have some doubts at all. How could it happen, given how old
> > it is and previously without tda9887 at all, that the wrong UHF switch
> > is undiscovered until today?
> >
> > Hm, the new MK5 has trouble with sound, FM anyway, but
> > TUNER_PHILIPS_FM1216MK5 is a complete clone of the FM1216ME MK3,
> > except for the discussed 1MHz change for UHF beginning and 0xce versus
> > 0x8e. IIRC, 0xce should be even the better choice on tuners without
> > radio, but I need to look it up again or Andy is more aware about the
> > recent discussions. (faster tuning bit)
> >
> > Maybe Dmitry has a datasheet for that one too.
> >
> > One question, which might be interesting is the RF loop through.
> > Is it enabled by default or even switchable?
> >
> > The latter would be reason enough to create a new tuner type I think.
> >
> > Just some quick ideas. (ivtv will bounce me, not subscribed)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Hermann
>
>
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