hi Christian,

sorry for the very late reply - unfortunately i'm very busy lately.
so, what i can tell you about your questions:

* for setting MIS filter you can follow the link in the first email
that started the discussion here:

http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.video-input-infrastructure/42312

or more specifically what's posted here:

http://www.tbsdtv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1874

i don't know if you have access to some signal modulator/generator
with MIS support, but if not there are several good live MIS signals,
e.g.

Atlantic Bird 1 @ 12.5 W, 12718 H, 36510, FEC 5/6

it's 8PSK MIS transponder with four TS, ISIs of them are: 33, 34, 35 36

if you can't get 12.5W let me know and i will look for some other live
signal useful for test purposes.

*  STV900AAC needs to be put on BBFrame mode, by default it strips the
BB data and outputs TS. however, the necessary settings for are
BBFrame mode not very clear - i need to do some trial and errors until
i hopefully get the BBFrame mode working. however, what is useful as a
starter is to parse/analyze for errors data dump made in Windows with
"TBS Recorder" tool - i believe i mentioned it to you - the data dump
made with that tool seems as valid BBFrames at least at first glance
with hex-editor, i.e. valid BBHeader data are observed. so, is there
some tool from your work (maybe 'bb-demux') that can parse/analyze
data dump of supposedly BBFrames.

anyway, let me know what help you need - i will look at BBFrame mode
for STV900AAC, because i can identify that task as open.

best wishes,
konstantin

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Christian Prähauser
<cpraeh...@cosy.sbg.ac.at> wrote:
> Hi Konstantin!
>
> I received your "present" :-) - many thanks! I already ported my base-band
> demux code to the current linux media master branch (in the v4l-dvb git
> repo).
> It currently allows drivers/frontends to pass base-band frames to the
> bb-demux.
> The bb-demux allows user-space filtering for BBFrames, TS packets, etc via
> the demux handle or dvr device. It also allows other kernel components to do
> base-band filtering (e.g. receive BBFrames on a specific ISI).
>
> Currently, the bb-demux only accepts a single, complete BBFrame in a single
> buffer, but I think
> it should also be able to cope with a stream of data (for ease of driver
> integration), including
> synchronization (search for frame start) and buffering (for assembling
> frames).
>
> Besides checking whether the current user-space API for base-band filtering
> is useful,
> there are a few remaining design questions to think about:
>
>  * How to allow pes/section filtering when receiving multiple TSs in
> parallel (on different ISIs)
>        - allow to "stack" filters, e.g. a bb-demux filter delivers TS from a
> certain
>        ISI and forwards it to a section filter (which then passes sections
> to user-space).
>        - dmx / dvr device for each?
>  * When and how to bring frontend into base-band data mode (a mode where it
> delivers
>        BBFrames instead of TS)?
>        - Should this be set by the user or happen automatically?
>  * How to set ISI on demux if we receive TS on a channel with MIS
>        (if this is not already possible, didn't check it yet)
>        - this could be covered by the bb-demux filtering API, although the
> base-band
>        demux is not directly involved in this case (since TS data is
> delivered to dvb-core).
>
> For now, I'm working to setup a public GIT repository, so you can have a
> look at the current status.
> Do you have a repository for the TBS drivers or should I use the official
> ones? Do you have
> an idea of how to program the STV900 to output BBFrames?
>
> Thanks again and kind regards,
> Christian.
>
> Am 17.01.2012 um 21:04 schrieb Konstantin Dimitrov:
>
>
>> hi Christian,
>>
>> it's great that you find it interesting too. i already prepared the
>> package and i will send it tomorrow - you should get in shorty - i
>> believe even with the most inexpensive shipping service within Europe
>> you will get in just a week or so. i hope you will have fun with the
>> TBS 6925 board - even if not for anything else just to receive DVB-S2
>> in Linux.
>>
>> kind regards,
>> konstantin
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Christian Prähauser
>> <cpraeh...@cosy.sbg.ac.at> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Konstantin!
>>>
>>> Thank you, and a happy new year to you too!
>>>
>>> The way to proceed you suggested sounds very interesting too me! I'd
>>> be more than happy if you could send me the TBS 6925 card to my
>>> university
>>> address:
>>>
>>> Christian Prähauser
>>> c/o Department of Computer Sciences
>>> University of Salzburg
>>> Jakob Haringer Str. 2
>>> A 5020 Salzburg
>>> AUSTRIA
>>>
>>> I will start to update my patches to match recent LinuxDVB sources and
>>> try to integrate Baseband demux support into the TBS linux driver.
>>> If this works, we can also put in GSE-support (S2-native encapsulation
>>> for
>>> carrying IP packets in DVB). This would then probably start to be
>>> interesting
>>> for some people...
>>>
>>> Thanks and kind regards,
>>> Christian.
>>>
>>> Am 10.01.2012 um 20:40 schrieb Konstantin Dimitrov:
>>>
>>>
>>>> hello Christian,
>>>>
>>>> and Happy New Year to you!
>>>>
>>>> thank you for joining the discussion, but apparently and unfortunately
>>>> Mauro current priorities are not to bring V4L to a next-level, as you
>>>> call it in your article to next-generation. anyway, i think your work
>>>> is very interesting and the least i can do is to offer you, if you
>>>> agree and give me your address, to send you as gift one TBS 6925 card
>>>> - i had two samples of such card, because i made the Linux drivers for
>>>> it and i can send you one of those two boards to you. what is
>>>> interesting about the card that in Windows TBS has tool called "TBS
>>>> Recorder" that can capture BBFrames - i'm not sure if the capture is
>>>> entirely correct, but at least checking with hex-editor the BBFrames
>>>> headers are present in the data dump. also, datasheets of the
>>>> demodulator in use on the board confirm that it can output BBFreames.
>>>> so, we can try just for fun to merge your work on BB-demux to V4L tree
>>>> with TBS 6925 support and see if we can get real hardware take use of
>>>> the BB-demux. what you think about such idea?
>>>>
>>>> kind regards,
>>>> konstantin
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Christian Prähauser
>>>> <cpraeh...@cosy.sbg.ac.at> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I'm meaning something like what it was described there. I think
>>>>>> that the code written by Christian were never submitted upstream.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Mauro,
>>>>>
>>>>> Konstantin drew my attention to this discussion. Indeed, some time ago
>>>>> I
>>>>> wrote
>>>>> a base-band demux for LinuxDVB. It was part of a project to integrate
>>>>> support
>>>>> for second-generation IP/DVB encapsulations (GSE). The BB-demux allows
>>>>> to
>>>>> register filters for different ISIs and data types (raw, generic
>>>>> stream,
>>>>> transport stream).
>>>>>
>>>>> I realized that the repo hosted at our University is down. If there is
>>>>> interest,
>>>>> I can update my patches to the latest LinuxDVB version and we can put
>>>>> them on a
>>>>> public repo e.g. at linuxdvb.org.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Christian.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>> ||//  \/  \\|| Department of Computer Sciences, University of Salzburg
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>
>
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>
> || //\\//\\ || Multimedia Communications Group,
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