Hi Guennadi,

On Tuesday 31 July 2012 14:39:07 Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Tuesday 31 July 2012 11:26:27 Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> > > On Fri, 27 Jul 2012, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 18 July 2012 19:00:15 Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
> > > > > On 07/16/2012 01:41 PM, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> > > [snip]
> > > 
> > > > > >>> An sh-mobile CEU DT node could look like
> > > > > >>> 
> > > > > >>>   ceu0@0xfe910000 = {
> > > > > >>>   
> > > > > >>>           compatible = "renesas,sh-mobile-ceu";
> > > > > >>>           reg =<0xfe910000 0xa0>;
> > > > > >>>           interrupts =<0x880>;
> > > > > >>>           bus-width =<16>;                /* #lines routed on the 
> > > > > >>> board */
> > > > > >>>           clock-frequency =<50000000>;    /* max clock */
> > > > > >>>           #address-cells =<1>;
> > > > > >>>           #size-cells =<0>;
> > > > > >>>           ...
> > > > > >>>           ov772x-1 = {
> > > > > >>>           
> > > > > >>>                   reg =<0>;
> > > > > 
> > > > > This property might be redundant, we already have the "client"
> > > > > phandle pointing to "ov772x@0x21-0", which has all interesting
> > > > > properties inside it. Other than there is probably no reasonable
> > > > > usage for it under "ceu0@0xfe910000" node ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > >>>                   client =<&ov772x@0x21-0>;
> > > > > >>>                   local-pad = "parallel-sink";
> > > > > >>>                   remote-pad = "parallel-source";
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> I'm not sure I like that. Is it really needed when we already
> > > > > >> have the child/parent properties around ?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I think it is. Both the host and the client can have multiple pads
> > > > > > (e.g., parallel / serial). These properties specify which pads are
> > > > > > used and make the translation between DT data and our subdev / pad
> > > > > > APIs simpler.
> > > > > 
> > > > > OK, sorry, but isn't it all about just specifying what sort of data
> > > > > bus is used ? :-)
> > > > 
> > > > In some (many/most ?) cases probably, but not in all of them.
> > > > 
> > > > What about merging the client and remote-pad properties ? The
> > > > resulting property would then reference a pad with <&ov772x@0x21-0 0>.
> > > 
> > > What would the "0" parameter mean then? Pad #0?
> > 
> > Yes.
> > 
> > > But aren't these numbers device specific? Maybe not a huge deal, but
> > > these numbers are defind by the driver, right? Not the DT itself. So,
> > > drivers then will have to take care not to change their pad numbering.
> > > Whereas using strings, we can fix strings in the common V4L DT spec and
> > > keep them standard across devices and drivers. Then drivers might be
> > > less likely to change these assignments randomly ;-)
> > 
> > Userspace applications usually rely on pad numbers as well, so I consider
> > them as more or less part of the ABI. If we really need to, we could add
> > a DT pad number -> media controller pad number conversion in the driver,
> > that would be less expensive than pad name -> pad number conversion
> > (especially since it would be skipped in most cases).
> 
> Ok, then, how about
> 
>               #address-cells = <1>;
>               #size-cells = <0>;
>               ...
>               ov772x-1 = {
>                       reg = <1>;                      /* local pad # */
>                       client = <&ov772x@0x21-0 0>;    /* remote phandle and 
> pad */

The client property looks good, but isn't such a usage of the reg property an 
abuse ? Maybe the local pad # should be a device-specific property. Many hosts 
won't need it, and on others it would actually need to reference a subdev, not 
just a pad.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

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