Linux-Misc Digest #755, Volume #18               Mon, 25 Jan 99 13:13:19 EST

Contents:
  minicom beep hangs <recipe for insanity> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: minicom beep hangs <recipe for insanity> (John Forkosh)
  Re: Good FTP prog for directory transfers (Tom Fawcett)
  Antivirus (Aurelien Jarno)
  Sound Problem with Realaudio (A)
  Re: gnome/enlightenment/KDE (Patrick O'Neil)
  Re: Notebook buy without Windooze? ("Jay D Ribak")
  Re: Toshiba 415 CS - Linux? (John Forkosh)
  X11 server ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Problem with KDE (Patrick O'Neil)
  Re: Linux or FreeBSD? (steve mcadams)
  Re: Linux or FreeBSD? (steve mcadams)
  Re: Linux or FreeBSD? (steve mcadams)
  Re: Netscape 4.5 & Acroread 3.02. . . ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) (Shaun Lipscombe)
  Re: S3V or SVGA ("Francis Pierot")
  Re: Security (Gary Momarison)
  Re: /proc/cpuinfo (Matthias Warkus)
  Re: Changed Lilo boot options, now Win98 won't boot ("Francis Pierot")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: minicom beep hangs <recipe for insanity>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:43:05 GMT

Hi, i just finished upgrading from slackware 3.5 -> 3.6 and it went great,
with one tiny excpetion.  When i use minicom now, it dials up just fine but
when it connects and gives that "connect ring" it hangs there, well actually
minicom keeps going fine but the ring hangs and i can't kill it (well the
only way to kill the ring that i have found so far is rebooting), does anyone
out there have any ideas as to how i might resolve this problem?

thank you,

                 -Gaiko

Gaikokujin Kyofusho
Student Extraordinare & UN*X Guru Wannbe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Forkosh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: minicom beep hangs <recipe for insanity>
Date: 25 Jan 1999 10:10:30 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Hi, i just finished upgrading from slackware 3.5 -> 3.6 and it went great,
: with one tiny excpetion.  When i use minicom now, it dials up just fine but
: when it connects and gives that "connect ring" it hangs there, well actually
: minicom keeps going fine but the ring hangs and i can't kill it (well the
: only way to kill the ring that i have found so far is rebooting), does anyone
: out there have any ideas as to how i might resolve this problem?

Yeah.  I had exactly the same problem under 3.6 (but on a new machine
so I can't say for sure that it's the version).
     Run  minicom -s  as root for setup.  One of the submenus
has an entry for  Alarm  that just toggles the "connect ring" on/off.
Turn it off and the ring will _entirely_ go away.
     By the way, my "ring" also hung after completing zmodem downloads.
Toggling Alarm cured this, too.
     I don't know what the underlying problem really is, but if you
can live without any ringing at all, then this will cure the symptom.
John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: Tom Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Good FTP prog for directory transfers
Date: 25 Jan 1999 09:43:33 -0500

Phil Obbard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Can anyone recommend a good (preferably graphical) FTP utility? I'm
> trying to manage my web site; I have no problem developing on my
> machine, but I am at a loss to transfer a bunch of directories
> recursively back up to my web site. Something like Windows WS_FTP would
> be perfect.
> 
> I got a slew of different apps from www.linuxapps.com, but had trouble
> compiling every single one (needed Motif development libraries, linked
> to misnamed files, etc.). Does anyone have one they're using that
> actually works?

I use lftp for this and it works well.  It has some nice features,
including a mirror command that can synch up directory trees in either
direction.  It isn't graphical but the output does a good job of showing
what's going on.

I've compiled it on several machines (Linux, Solaris, FreeBSD) with no problem.

Regards,
-Tom

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aurelien Jarno)
Subject: Antivirus
Date: 25 Jan 1999 14:53:28 GMT

Hello,

I'm looking an antivirus for Linux.

Thanks

Aurélien

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From: A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound Problem with Realaudio
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 01:53:06 +0800

I have a problem with the realaudio plugin.  After a few seconds of
buffering, there is no sound and this will be followed by an Error 1,
which is too generic to pin down any particular fault.

Anway, when I tried dmesg, I saw:
Sound: DMA (output) timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error?
Sound: DMA (output) timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error?
Sound: DMA (output) timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? 

This message will occur as many times as I try to set up a streaming
audio thru RealAudio.  Seems like a hardware problem but I have no
problem playing audio CDs with KDE's kscd.

Anybody got any clue what the message means?  Thanks in advance.

My sound card is a AWE64 ISA with the following settings:
interrupt: 10
DMA: 1, 5
I/O: 220
MPU 401 I/O: 330

TH

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From: Patrick O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gnome/enlightenment/KDE
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:37:56 -0700

On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus wrote:

> From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
> > GNOME project and it's association with The Enlightenment WM.  I wanted
> > to ask if it was possible to have both GNOME/Enlightenment and KDE
> > installed on the same linux installation and switch between them like I
> 
> All the installations will happily reside next to each other on your hard
> drive. =)
> [...]
> To switch between them, you may need to either edit your .xinitrc or to
> edit your window manager configuration files which take care of this type
> of switching.

KDE tends to be my primary environment.  I also have Enlightenment, Window
Maker, and fvwm2 installed.  I use kdm (in place of xdm) for a graphical
login and all the window managers/environments are listed and selectable
from kdm.  Much the same can be done from xdm and from the command line
with switches added to "startx..."

There are no problems, as indicated above, with having all of them
installed.  I also have gnome 0.99 installed for use with Window Maker and
Enlightenment.

patrick


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From: "Jay D Ribak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Notebook buy without Windooze?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:34:14 -0500

Robert Heller wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>It is likely however, that the best deal for a *new* laptop will be to
>buy a machine from Dell or Gateway or some such and pay for and throw
>away MS-Windows -- you won't get a "blank disk" system or if you do
>manage to talk the sales idiot into a "blank disk" system you won't get a
>price break either.  Maybe you can find some poor soul to buy the
>MS-Windows CDs and what not from you. I'm not sure if this is truly legal
>however, much less whether it is a "nice" thing to do to the poor sap
>in question.


But, the key point for most folks is, why should we HAVE to pay a 'tax' to
MS for an OS that will never be used?    Just giving in and buying a machine
with Windows and not doing anything like trying to get a refund just makes
the overall situation worse for all involved.   However, if everyone who
bought a laptop for Linux use tried to get a refund for unused software,
perhaps it will be easier on those folks who try at a later date.

jay R.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Forkosh)
Subject: Re: Toshiba 415 CS - Linux?
Date: 25 Jan 1999 10:19:59 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: I have a Toshiba 415CS P90 laptop w/ 16mb of ram.  I want to run Linux on this
: system.  Has anyone had any experience with this hardware?  Problems, special
: configuration I should be aware of?
Don't know about this machine in particular, though I believe most
Toshibas will run Linux okay.  For more definitive info, see the
Linux Laptop page at
     http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/
which provides an almost encyclopia's worth of info about
many laptops.
Hope this helps,
John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: X11 server
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:38:44 GMT

I have a trident 975 AGP video card and would like to know which X server
supports this type of card.
Thanks

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From: Patrick O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Problem with KDE
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:41:09 -0700

On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Nancy K. wrote:

> Everytime I go to a website with the KFS manager, it exits with no error 
> message .. Anyone have advice on this?   The website loads and I see all the 
> graphics but then the program just closes. After this I can't do anything in 
> KDE.

Try starting it from an xterm using the command "kfm -w".  This will
startup the filemanager/browser and when it craps out, it should leave a
message of some sort in the xterm.  

Then you can either figure out the problem from there or post the result
to the group and get a more useful/correcting answer or suggestion.

patrick


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux or FreeBSD?
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 18:03:12 GMT

[Snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with ">"]
On 24 Jan 1999 05:19:14 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve
Lamb) wrote:

>    What part of Debian was hard to set up?  Of all the OSs I've ever used
>Debian is by far the easiest to setup and maintain.

Quite a few things as I remember.  First off my bios or maybe the
kernel version Debian was using didn't see the correct hard drive
geometry; usually with fdisk I just set it to what it needs to be and
get on with things, but Debian was using cfdisk, and I saw nothing to
indicate how to redefine drive geometry.  I've since been told that
C-g will do that but I'd never used cfdisk before, it had no menu or
fkey description that said anything about drive geometry, and in an
install on a green system you can't exactly check the man pages.  Then
there were a couple of places where I pressed ENTER and my keyboard
stuck resulting in a double-enter; these caused me to have selected
something I didn't even have a chance to read, and there was no way to
go back.  Then the package selection UI was basically so bad that I
decided to blow it off and stick with SuSE.

I have had similar experiences with RedHat, TurboLinux, etc. except
SuSE which is what I am currently running.  It's not perfect either,
but I had a lot better luck with it as a relative newbie.

>  If you think NT is easy
>to setup, I'd like to know what crack your smoking, who your source is, and
>a good word in so I can get a sample.  After my several all day ordeals with
>NT I find doing a Debian install over a 33.6k modem and FTP far easier, less
>stressful and *FASTER*.

Yes, I think NT is easy to set up; hell, I think ALL of the Microsoft
stuff is easy to set up.  Why?  Because I've been installing their
stuff for 5 years is why.  I have no clue anymore how easy or hard it
would be for a newbie; I certainly had a helluva time getting Win 3.1
installed when I was a newbie there.  I can set up NT on a green
system in about 45 minutes simply because I've had a whole lot of
practice at doing it.  Setting up a Linux system takes me half a day,
because I always reformat my file systems on a new test install, and
I've only done it a handful of times instead of a hundred or so.

Anyway I'm not a MS-troll.  If you are forced into another ordeal with
NT, let me know if you need help.  I probably should have kept my yap
shut, I only started reading this thread because I'll be trying
FreeBSD one of these days soon and wanted to learn about it.  Ease of
setup is one of my hot-buttons these days, after having done about 15
or 20 different Linux installs, all pretty much of an ordeal.  Peace.
-steve
========================================================
so what?  -  http://www.codetools.com/showcase

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux or FreeBSD?
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 18:03:05 GMT

[Snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with ">"]
On 23 Jan 1999 20:14:54 +0100, Martin Dieringer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>and point 5. (three floppy disks? LOL)

I don't understand your comment about 3 floppy disks; what does it
mean?

>tar and gzip the heretic!

Hey, I didn't see anything in the original post about not wanting to
spend several hundred dollars to get up and running.  And if money is
no object I'd still recommend NT for the combined set of requirements
he's stated.

NT is not unreliable in my experience, I've been using it for the last
3+ years daily, and I've seen maybe 3 crashes.  I only have a couple
months experience with Linux and it doesn't seem unreliable; I've only
seen it "die" once and for all I know it wasn't dead because it was
real early-on that I saw it happen and at the point I didn't know
enough to be sure what was going on.

For ease of setup I don't think that there's any question that NT is
easier to install than any Linux I have seen to date (and I think
Caldera is the only one I haven't tried yet of the major dists).

Once you get them set up, if there's a particular thing you need to
configure, either one involves a certain amount of arcana.

Go ahead, tar and gzip me.  I don't dislike NT (it's where it comes
from that gives me a pain).  Doesn't mean that I don't have more fun
with Linux.  -steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux or FreeBSD?
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 18:03:08 GMT

[Snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with ">"]
On Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:16:37 +0000, Dean Lombardo
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Although I once had an NT box running a Web server for almost two months
>without a reboot!  That is to say, I only rebooted it to install
>FreeBSD... when I personally discovered that a poor little 486 with 16Mb
>of RAM running FreeBSD beat the crap out of memory-happy NT running on a
>fast Pentium.
>
>NT sucks.

As a workstation, NT is easier to set up than Linux, no less reliable,
and has way more good GUI apps available.  It's more expensive, it
wastes more machine, but if you can afford a hot box there's nothing
wrong with it except where the money goes.  Since I turn my
workstation off when it's not going to be used for a few days, I have
no idea what long-run implications there are if you use it as a
server.  

Imho for a server it's silly to use anything besides Linux, but then I
don't set up servers on a daily basis.

This posting is being sent from an NT 4 Server system that I use as a
workstation.  I also use it to make money, ie sometimes I work at home
instead of the office, etc.  Otoh, my Linux box is busy doing some
things at the moment which are fun.  -steve
========================================================
so what?  -  http://www.codetools.com/showcase

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.5 & Acroread 3.02. . .
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:08:42 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Norvell Spearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone gotten the acroread plugin to work with Netscape 4.5?  Every
> time I try viewing a pdf file using Netscape 4.5 and the plugin supplied
> by acroread, Communicator pukes on the rug and I get a core dump.
> Thanks for any help with this.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To reply, remove my opinion about
> unwanted e-mail from my address.
>

Hello Norvell,

have you got back responses about your problem ?
I thinh you work with Linux,  but i have the same troubles
on Unix and look for fine Acroread plug-in with netscape4.5

Can you keep me informed if you get more infos, please.

Regards
  Thierry

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From: Shaun Lipscombe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: 25 Jan 1999 12:41:32 +0000


You are, of course, quite correct.  I had meant to say, that if you
use Emacs for windows, you can remap the caps-lock key.  This is
important, only because some people have problems re-mapping keys
under windows, although there are a variety of ways to accomplish the
same task on a linux/unix platform.  This is maybe/probably off-topic
(on the scale of things) but seemed to maybe, be of use to anyone
following the thread (which itself has deviated somewhat) that
uses/is-forced-to-use Emacs on a Win32 platform.

-- 
          (o_
(o_  (o_  //\
(/)_ (/)_ V_/_   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Francis Pierot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: S3V or SVGA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:58:22 +0100

As of XFree 3.3.3, I understand all S3 and acclerated support is going to be
stopped on old servers like S3V. So I guess you should use SVGA starting
from now. I did on an anonymous S3 Virge DX/4MB and it runs fine. (redHat
5.2 With updates to XFree 3.3.3).

(I saw not much more speed difference but I read the docs and it says SVGA
is going to be the central place for all accelerated support in the future.)

iNoDE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have an STB Velocity 3D Video Card 4MB.  I am running the S3V server
> right now fine... However I have read/heard that the SVGA server is
> faster... I installed it and didn't notice much of a difference... my
> question is... if I can run either one... which one should I keep? why?
> Thanks....




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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Security
Date: 25 Jan 1999 08:56:35 -0800

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> New to Linux! Just connected to Internet thru ppp and wonder how safety to
> surf the Internet using Netscape under Linux. Anyone can intrude my computer
> ?  or can see my password on the submit form. Thanks for your info.

When using software one must assume anything is possible. New security
"exploits" are discovered (and introduced) every day.  One just has to
learn to judge the risks and the value of one's security and then decide 
how much time and expense one wants to devote to security.

As far as I know, security breaches of systems occasionally connected
to the Internet via an ISP using dynamic IP addresses are uncommon.

Find some tips on making the easiest security steps at

http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/security.html

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Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: /proc/cpuinfo
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 01:08:31 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It was the Sun, 24 Jan 1999 18:20:09 GMT...
..and Scott Gravenhorst (remove _ for reply) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Where can I find information defining each of the numbers in
> /proc/cpuinfo?
> 
> Thanks from a newbie who likes Linux alot.

The proc(5) file system man page -- simply enter "man 5 proc", and you
should be enlightened. As always, man pages can be daunting, but you should
find what you are looking for if you sift through proc(5).

mawa
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My Geek Code is no longer in my .signature. It's available on e-mail request.
It's sad to live in a world where knowing how to program your VCR actually
lowers your social status...

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From: "Francis Pierot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Changed Lilo boot options, now Win98 won't boot
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:42:18 +0100

David J. DeFrain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>[... whack!...]
> (I thought) on Linxconf, I am unable to boot Win 98, while
> Linux works fine.  Within Linux, I cannot mount my C: drive
> either, which I could do before.  I get the message "wrong fs type, bad
> option,
> bad superblock on /dev/hda1 (which is my C: drive).
First boot from a windows startup disk, and do a FDISK /MBR to get your boot
record back.

Then make sure your kernel has VFAT support and is up-to-date for FAT32
support as well. Make sure you do that not as a module, but as a kernel
static option. I found module loading for VFAT is not that fool proof. Best
is to recompile kernel (as least that's good for morale).

Good luck.
FP.



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