Linux-Misc Digest #398, Volume #18 Tue, 29 Dec 98 20:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: Kdesktop (Norman Jordan)
Re: NOSPAM in addresses.. (Wildman, the Cuberstalker)
Re: Can OSS share /dev/dsp amongst more than one app? (Norman Jordan)
make xconfig and make menuconfig fail for 2.2.0.pre1 (Peter Potter)
Re: Am I stupid or am I stupid. PPP. ALMOST!!! (Bill Unruh)
Re: HELP: Partitioning question (Leonard Evens)
Re: Installing Slackware 3.6 on a system running Windows NT 4.0 (mike burrell)
Re: XFree86 and Intel i740 graphics card ("Dr. Mark H. Shapiro")
Re: can't make menuconfig (Peter Potter)
Re: patch for kernel (Peter Potter)
NSPR libraries (Matthias Warkus)
DirecPC info for Linux
can't make menuconfig (Francesc Guasch)
Re: gnome & windows manager (Matthias Warkus)
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From: Norman Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kdesktop
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:36:30 GMT
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Rick Knebel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am using Suse 5.3 and Kdesktop wm.
> I am not really thrilled with its stability.
> Where can I change my user default desktop and anyone using suse 5.3
> have any suggestions.
>
> Thanks
> Rick
>
> --
> Rick Knebel
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The default window manager is the one that is started in the file
$HOME/.xinitrc or /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc if you don't have the first
file.
-- Norman Jordan -- Electrical Engineering Student
The Linux Resource Center
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Rick Knebel wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Hi,
<P>I am using Suse 5.3 and Kdesktop wm.
<BR>I am not really thrilled with its stability.
<BR>Where can I change my user default desktop and anyone using suse 5.3
<BR>have any suggestions.
<P>Thanks
<BR>Rick
<P>--
<BR>Rick Knebel
<BR>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</BLOCKQUOTE>
The default window manager is the one that is started in the file $HOME/.xinitrc
or /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc if you don't have the first file.
<P>-- Norman Jordan -- Electrical Engineering Student
<P><A HREF="http://members.home.net/2817628153/">The Linux Resource Center</A>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wildman, the Cuberstalker)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: NOSPAM in addresses..
Date: 29 Dec 1998 23:38:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:58:36 -0500, Troutman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Dont reply to people - reply to the NG. Most of the spammers dont seem
>to be smart enough to remove NOSPAM. Regardless of what Mr. Yohe says.
>My inbound spam is next to nothing with the altered return address.
I take it one step further - an active stance against spam. I filter spam
into a special folder that I go through and send out LARTs at my leisure. I
now receive fewer spams - there are fewer spammers with accounts to spam
from. Or web pages to spam. Or domains that host spammers. 8-D
--
Wildman, the Cuberstalker
Thank you, Microsoft, and please get out of the way.
Fight spam - http://www.cauce.org/
DO NOT SPAM THIS ADDRESS
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From: Norman Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can OSS share /dev/dsp amongst more than one app?
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:38:55 GMT
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi I noticed that I cannot share /dev/dsp amongst more than one app at a
> time. I can play midi and wav/mp3 simultaneously, but I cannot play a wav and
> an mp3 at the same time. I get an error from sox.bin saying that it cannot
> open /dev/dsp because the resource is busy. Is there any way to make the OSS
> driver "multitask" amongst sound apps (i.e. switch quickly between them), so
> that you can play a wav and an mp3 at the "same time?"
>
> Perhaps it's a compile-time option? Thanks in advance...
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
You would get the same error in Windows, however there is a program that I think
tries to get around this, it is called esound. The Enlightenment window manager
and The Gnome Desktop environment are currently using it.
-- Norman Jordan -- Electrical Engineering Student
The Linux Resource Center
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Hi I noticed that I cannot share /dev/dsp amongst
more than one app at a
<BR>time. I can play midi and wav/mp3 simultaneously, but I cannot play
a wav and
<BR>an mp3 at the same time. I get an error from sox.bin saying that
it cannot
<BR>open /dev/dsp because the resource is busy. Is there any way
to make the OSS
<BR>driver "multitask" amongst sound apps (i.e. switch quickly between
them), so
<BR>that you can play a wav and an mp3 at the "same time?"
<P>Perhaps it's a compile-time option? Thanks in advance...
<P>-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
<BR><A
HREF="http://www.dejanews.com/">http://www.dejanews.com/</A>
Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own</BLOCKQUOTE>
You would get the same error in Windows, however there is a program that
I think tries to get around this, it is called esound. The Enlightenment
window manager and The Gnome Desktop environment are currently using it.
<P>-- Norman Jordan -- Electrical Engineering Student
<P><A HREF="http://members.home.net/2817628153/">The Linux Resource Center</A>
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From: Peter Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: make xconfig and make menuconfig fail for 2.2.0.pre1
Date: 29 Dec 1998 16:08:44 -0800
|| Anybody want to tell me what I'm doing wrong, before I complain to the
|| kernel developers? I bunzip2'ed and untared linux-2.2.0-pre1 into
|| /usr/src/linux and then did "make mrproper" and then got this error:
=================================
$ make xconfig
rm -f include/asm
( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
make -C scripts kconfig.tk
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.0-pre1/scripts'
cat header.tk >> ./kconfig.tk
./tkparse < ../arch/i386/config.in >> kconfig.tk
unknown command=unset CONFIG_PCI_BIOS CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT(39)
Bad if clause at line 44:[ -n "$CONFIG_PCI_GOBIOS" -o -n "$CONFIG_PCI_GOANY" ]; then
make[1]: *** [kconfig.tk] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.0-pre1/scripts'
make: *** [xconfig] Error 2
### root ### /usr/src/linux ###
=================================
|| It looks like script/tkparse doesn't understand valid bash code.
|| Is some special Tk/Tcl thing needed?
|| So I moved on and tried "make menuconfig" in an xterm and got this:
=================================
There seems to be a problem with the lxdialog companion utility which is
built prior to running Menuconfig. Usually this is an indicator that you
have upgraded/downgraded your ncurses libraries and did not remove the
old ncurses header file(s) in /usr/include or /usr/include/ncurses.
It is VERY important that you have only one set of ncurses header files
and that those files are properly version matched to the ncurses libraries
installed on your machine.
You may also need to rebuild lxdialog. This can be done by moving to
the /usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog directory and issuing the
"make clean all" command.
=================================
|| Using "rpm -qf <file>" I determined that the ncurses files look OK
|| to me and there's no old header files. A curses.h comment says "1.1.9e".
|| Any ideas? I've got Red Hat 5.0 plus many of the updates. I just
|| rebuild kernel 2.0.36 with no problems. See anyting wrong here?
|| Don't bother with email, thanks.
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>From libc-5.3.12-24 RPM:
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 244173 Nov 10 1997
/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libncurses.so.1.9.9e
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Nov 16 13:40
/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libncurses.so.3.0 -> libncurses.so.1.9.9e
>From ncurses-devel-1.9.9e-9 RPM:
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Nov 16 13:40 /usr/include/ncurses.h ->
ncurses/curses.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 54874 Jul 21 08:52 /usr/include/ncurses/curses.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1946 Jul 21 08:52 /usr/include/ncurses/eti.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14676 Jul 21 08:52 /usr/include/ncurses/form.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9157 Jul 21 08:52 /usr/include/ncurses/menu.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2586 Jul 21 08:52 /usr/include/ncurses/panel.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32830 Jul 21 08:52 /usr/include/ncurses/term.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2001 Jul 21 08:52 /usr/include/ncurses/termcap.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2050 Jul 21 08:52 /usr/include/ncurses/unctrl.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 320642 Jul 21 08:52 /usr/lib/libncurses.a
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Nov 16 13:45 /usr/lib/libncurses.so ->
libncurses.so.3.0
>From ncurses-1.9.9e-9 RPM:
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 244518 Jul 21 08:52 /usr/lib/libncurses.so.1.9.9e
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Nov 16 13:48 /usr/lib/libncurses.so.3.0 ->
libncurses.so.1.9.9e
>From no RPM:
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Nov 16 13:45 /usr/lib/libncurses.so.2.0 ->
libncurses.so.1.9.9e
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: Re: Am I stupid or am I stupid. PPP. ALMOST!!!
Date: 30 Dec 1998 00:09:19 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Greer) writes:
>So because everything is going to change by next year....we should
>just forget it....come on....If everyone did that, we'd never learn
>anything. The changes that happen from year to year, are usually
>built upon pre-existing foundations....so having knowledge of the
>past, will help us learn in the future.
I am not knocking learning-- that is my profession after all. However
for most people they did not get a computer to learn about operating
systems and computers. They got them in order to send email to
collegues, look at web sites, do word processing etc. Just as they
bought a car, not to learn about differentials, sparcplugs, or piston
ring tolerances, but to get them from one place tothe next. WE all have
limits, of time and of ability, to what we can learn. learning takes
time and effort and that time and effort may not be available to learn
about operting systems.
This is especially true about computers, where the opportunity to learn
is always there but can be turned off by intimidation. MS is dumb in
that they offer no road to learning, by making anything more
sophisticated almost impossible to do on their machines. On the other
hand Linux tends to put up a high barrier to initial use of the system,
which is also well known as a highly efficient way of stopping people
from learning. Self confidence, which comes only by successfully making
things work, is crucial to any learning experience, and Linux tends to
sap such self confidence by unnecessary difficulties in getting started.
For ppp all ISPs have voluminous material telling you how to hook up a
Win95 machine. Although it tends to be recipie type stuff, those recipies
should be translatable into linux recipies for connecting as well.
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.list,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: HELP: Partitioning question
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:21:59 -0600
Pete wrote:
> This is probably one of the most common situations, but I can't find it in
> the Redhat installation manual.
>
> 1- I have Windows 95 on a 6 GB hard drive
> 2- The 6GB hard drive has 3 (2 GB) partitions named C, D and E.
> 3- The C partition holds Windows and Windows related stuff.
> 4- The D and E partition hold data that I want to keep.
>
> I want to completely get rid of Windows 95 and load Redhat 5.1
>
> 5- The C partition will be deleted, reformated to be "linux native" and
> partitioned up to hold /, /tmp, swap, /home, etc.
>
> 6- I DO NOT want to delete the old D and E partitions. In fact, I want to
> be able to access the stuff on them.
>
> How do I do this with Disk Druid?
>
> Previously, I had simply formatted/repartitioned C, and left D, E alone
> (Disk Druid (called them MSDOS partitions). But I don't see any way to
> access them. If I have to, I'll reload Windows 95 from backup and try
> this partitioning thing again.
>
> How can I keep/access my D and E drives (the MSDOG "extended partitions")?
>
> Much thanks!
> Pete
>
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I would suggest using fdisk instead, although I am sure you can also do it with
disk druid.
The point is that you can have at most four primary or extended partitions on
one disk. The D: and E:
drives are two logical partitions in the same extended partition. So that is
one. You should
be able to install Redhat with three primary partitions, one of which will be
a swap partition . Or you can also create one or more
extended partitions and subdivide them into logical partitions. Linux's fdisk
(or disk druid)
should see the D: and E: partitions. You should leave them alone. After you
have finished
installing Linux, you should be able to create mount points and mount them.
The only potential problem is that if the old Windows partitions are FAT32,
fdisk may
report differences between the logical and physical beginnings or ends of the
partitions.
To be safe, I would try not to overlap anything so reported. However, I
recently ran
Fips20 to repartition a Windows98 disk, and it claimed that error message was
harmless.
If anyone can explain clearly the meaning of that message, it would be helpful.
I presume
it has to do with the difference between FAT32 and FAT16.
By the way, to mount FAT32 partitions under Linux use the type vfat.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Installing Slackware 3.6 on a system running Windows NT 4.0
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mike burrell)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:14:13 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>mike burrell wrote:
>>
>> In article <R4tf2.2235$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Steve Sanyal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Hi,
>> *snip*
>> >My question is -- when I create bootdisks, will the LINUX installation
>> >program be able to see my NTFS partition, as NTFS partitions are only
>> >visible to Windows NT as far as I am aware.
>>
>> afaik, the kernel on the slackware bootdisk does NOT have ntfs support
>> compiled in, which means you will NOT be able to mount the ntfs drive
>>
>> what i recommend you DO do is get someone (i'm sure anyone on here would be
>> nice enough to do it) to make you a new bootdisk, with ntfs support compiled
>> in (along with any other specific hardware needs you have)
>>
>> anyway, once this new kernel is loaded, you should be able to use the
>> slackware rootdisk as normal, except now you have ntfs support
>>
>
>I thought that ntfs support is read only. I compiled the kernel
>2.2.0 this afternoon and noticed that. What is the fstab command
>to recognize my ntfs partition?
read-write ntfs support is in 2.1 (2.3 yet?)
and putting something like this:
/dev/hda5 /nt-drive ntfs defaults 1 1
should work in your fstab
--
m i k e b u r r e l l
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mikpos.dyndns.org
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From: "Dr. Mark H. Shapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.dev.newbie
Subject: Re: XFree86 and Intel i740 graphics card
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 16:03:58 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Staf Wagemakers wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 20:31:06 -0800, John Minear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Sol Swords wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone know how to get this combination to work? I'm assuming this
> >> is the reason my new intstall isn't working; Linux works fine but I
> >> can't startX; it gives me an error about "no screens found." I say this
> >> is probably my problem because I have tried many different options and
> >> get slightly different results with each, but none actually work.
> >>
> >> Thanks very very much for any help
> >>
> >> - Sol
> >
> >I had the some proplem. I have a "Diamond Viper AGP v-500" What I did to
> >fix the problem was to upgrade to Xfree86 3.3.3 then run xconf.
> >
> >
>
> The i740 chipset isn't supported by Xfree86 3.3.3, however there is a Xserver
> availible at the Red Hat web site... Below you'll find a part of Xfree86 faq
> (www.Xfree86.org).
>
> Q.F22- Is a server for the Intel i740 chipset available?
>
> Boards based on Intel i740 chips are not supported in XFree86, as
> programming documentation is not available. For users of Linux based
> machines, Red Hat has made a binary only server XBF_i740 available at
> their ftp server. Check ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/XBF for details.
>
> cheers,
>
> --
> Staf Wagemakers
>
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> homepage: www.bewoner.dma.be/StafWag "see gives your man-pages more colors"
See also http://www.precisioninsight.com/products.html for a discussion of
RedHat's efforts to make drivers available for new video cards.... The readme in
their ftp directory provides step-by-step instructions for downloading the
driver (and an updated version of XF86config that will be needed to configure
your system).
Mark
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From: Peter Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can't make menuconfig
Date: 29 Dec 1998 16:15:41 -0800
Mike Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I read somewhere (maybe kernel-howto? or maybe linux-kernel listserv?)
> that there are known incompatabilities with egcs and compiling kernels.
> Simple solution - shitcan egcs and go get gcc 2.7.2 from any of the
> usual places. One of which is ftp://ftp.digex.net/pub/gnu/ For a full
> list of sites, visit www.gnu.org
I've read that too, but since some things REQUIRE egcs, installed it
in my funky /var/local/bin/egcs (non-standard) dir and made this
lame script to switch back and forth.
#!/bin/bash
if [ $1 = -gcc ]; then
for FILE in /var/local/bin/egcs/*; do
\rm -f /var/local/bin/${FILE##*/}
done
elif [ $1 = -egcs ]; then
for FILE in /var/local/bin/egcs/*; do
\ln -s egcs/${FILE##*/} /var/local/bin
done
else
echo "Usage: $0 { -gcc | -egcs }"
exit 1
fi
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From: Peter Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: patch for kernel
Date: 29 Dec 1998 16:22:39 -0800
"J=FCrgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ceccarini wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > I got a Patch for my 2.0.31 kernel. Now how do I compile it?
> =
> =
> Actually the README in /usr/src/linux should explain all steps.
> If you still have problems, please feel free to ask specific questions.
Silly me - I figured the instructions would come with the patch
or be found somewhere obvious where I got the patch from
(eg, at http://www.kernel.org).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: NSPR libraries
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:38:19 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I would like to build the latest tarball release of Mozilla, but there has
been a problem.
It needs the following libraries:
libnspr21
libplc21
libplds21
I haven't found a hint on mozilla.org. Perhaps they're part of Next
Generation Layout or something?
Please answer me ASAP, I want to *build* the thing! ;)
TIA
mawa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: DirecPC info for Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 29 Dec 1998 11:59:35 +0600
Could someone point me in the direction of resources for running
DirecPC in Linux? I've heard it can be done even though DirecPC doesn't
support it.
Thanks in advance.
--
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:00:32 +0100
From: Francesc Guasch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: can't make menuconfig
Once upon I had slackware 3.5 installed. The other day I tried to
install the latest version. Since then I cannot recompile the kernel
I have egcs:
gcc version egcs-2.90.29 980515 (egcs-1.0.3 release)
I got that message when I issue make menuconfig :
# make menuconfig
rm -f include/asm
( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
make -C scripts/lxdialog all
make[1]: Entering directory `/disc2/src/2/linux-2.0.36/scripts/lxdialog'
gcc -O2 -Wall -fomit-frame-pointer -DLOCALE -I/usr/include/ncurses
-DCURSES_LOC="<ncurses.h>" -c checklist.c -o checklist.o
checklist.c: In function `print_item':
checklist.c:38: warning: implicit declaration of function `wattrset'
checklist.c: In function `dialog_checklist':
checklist.c:150: warning: implicit declaration of function `keypad'
checklist.c:202: warning: implicit declaration of function
`wnoutrefresh'
checklist.c:217: `KEY_UP' undeclared (first use this function)
checklist.c:217: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
checklist.c:217: for each function it appears in.)
checklist.c:217: `KEY_DOWN' undeclared (first use this function)
checklist.c:229: warning: implicit declaration of function `wscrl'
checklist.c:256: called object is not a function
checklist.c:295: `KEY_LEFT' undeclared (first use this function)
checklist.c:296: `KEY_RIGHT' undeclared (first use this function)
make[1]: *** [checklist.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/disc2/src/2/linux-2.0.36/scripts/lxdialog'
make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2
I'm absolutely clueless. Pleas somebody give me hint.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: gnome & windows manager
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 18:52:16 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Tue, 29 Dec 1998 09:57:38 -0400, Matías Orchard V....
..and <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there:
>
> why does GNome have not incorporated a windows manager?
They don't want to. They have instead made specifications for "Gnome
compliancy", so you can use every window manager you want if it is Gnome
compliant. Others will work, too, but not as well.
> why can't I have folders on my desktop like under KDE?
You can. You need to start up the Gnome Midnight Commander in your session
startup script.
> which windows manager do you recommend to use under gnome?
Icewm is practical; WindowMaker is pretty; Enlightenment is on the cutting
edge.
As soon as gtkwm is out, I would try that one, it was specifically made for
Gnome.
mawa
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