Linux-Misc Digest #309, Volume #19 Fri, 5 Mar 99 01:13:11 EST
Contents:
Re: netcape + freshmeat.org then crash? (Stan Barr)
Re: Open source MS bad for Linux? (Johan Kullstam)
Re: AOL Instant Messanger (Bill Mitchell)
Re: More bad news for NT (Richard Steiner)
Re: best offline newsreader? (Frank Hahn)
Re: Module configuration (Frank Hahn)
Re: How I want to configure my office (Frank Hahn)
Re: Starting X at boot (Jimmy Navarro)
Re: Starting X at boot (**Nick Brown)
libXpm.so.4 - still not working (**Nick Brown)
Re: how to find processor type? uname -p failes ("Quiney, Philip
(EXCHANGE:HAL02:HM10)")
Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows (**Nick Brown)
Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows (**Nick Brown)
Red Hat 5.2 & Netscape Communicator 4.07 (Jimmy Navarro)
Re: Backup software (Ryan Faircloth)
Major Linux News Portal (Daemonspawn)
X artifacts after X is shutdown? (Michael Proto)
Re: FreeBSD vs LINUX (david parsons)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stan Barr)
Subject: Re: netcape + freshmeat.org then crash?
Date: 4 Mar 1999 07:06:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 03 Mar 1999 17:57:28 +0000,
Jim Liedeka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> > AFAIK, it is a bug in Netscape that only shows up with Linux 2.2.
>> > there is a dynamic library which tries to hack around the
>> > problem. I didn't have too much success with it myself and
>> > haven't spent the time to try to fix it. check
>> > comp.linux.announce to find it.
>>
>> I have no problems with kernel 2.2.1 and Netscape 4.05 or
>> 4.08 accessing freshmeat.net
>
>I am running Netscape 4.5 under the 2.0.36 kernel and I also crash out
>when trying to access freshmeat.net. The problem is definitely not
>confined to the new kernels.
>
Mine (Netscape 4.5, 2.0.36 kernel) crashes occasionally, but not every
time - wierd....
Cheers,
Stan Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Open source MS bad for Linux?
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 04 Mar 1999 23:10:28 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dillon Pyron) writes:
> One of the proposed "remedies" for MicroSoft when they lose (almost
> a given at this point, but let's save the champagne :-) would be to
> force them to "open source" all of their OS products. While it
> sounds great, what I'm afraid it would mean is that instead of one
> version of MS Windows, there would be dozens of implementations, as
> exists with Linux.
what's the problem here? so what if there'd be a dozen windows
variants? i don't like windows. i doubt i'd enjoy any of the dozen
variations.
(btw linux doesn't have dozens of implementations -- there is still
*one* kernel, unless you are counting versions maybe? the various
distributions are not as mutually exclusive as you might think.)
> Only problem is, there's already an existing user base of tens of
> millions out there.
for linux? yes there is. linux is doing just fine. and who cares
about the windows base? they will do just fine.
> Of course, I think that the real "remedy" will be a severe fine (one
> or two day's profits) and a stern warning to "don't let me catch you
> doing that again".
why is this the real remedy? i can think of a half dozen others.
imho the best would be just have the government stop buying/using
anything microsoft makes. that would kill microsoft dead within a
year.
> My old man never caught me twice at anything, I was too smart :-)
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 19:17:43 +0000
From: Bill Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AOL Instant Messanger
Neil Zanella wrote:
> Thanks.
>
> Where can I get Tik from?
>
> On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Mykool wrote:
>
> > Are you trying to install Java AIM? If so, why? Download Tik, the unix
> > version. I've been using it for the past few months and works
> > perfectly.
http://www.aim.aol.com/tik/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 21:46:39 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:
>>Interesting. So it might actually be possible to create a CLI that
>>replaces Explorer. Like a bash port?
>
>Absolutely. But have you checked out Windows Scripting Host? It's a
>mechanism that allows you to use plug-in scripting languages, much
>as you'd use shell scripts in Unix. Available are vbscript,
>javascript, ...
No, I'm mainly just blathering. :-) I'm too happy yet in OS/2 to move
from it in the near future, and when I do move it's probably to Linux
on a fulltime basis anyway.
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
I don't get ulcers ... but I'm a carrier. :-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Subject: Re: best offline newsreader?
Date: 5 Mar 1999 03:41:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 3 Mar 1999 18:09:37 GMT, Eric Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Knews is very powerful, but it is not offline. I've read reports that Agent
>will work with Wine, and I know for a fact that Agent also works with Wabi.
>
I don't know if you are interested or not but you can get knews to read
from a local spool. I've used slrnpull and knews together.
The big thing I like about slrnpull is the score file that you can
set up to kill a bunch of messages right off the bat that I don't
want to see.
That's the biggest reason that I ended up switching from knews to slrn
was because I think slrn does a better job both killing and highlighting
articles that I want to read.
--
Frank Hahn
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Subject: Re: Module configuration
Date: 5 Mar 1999 03:41:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 04 Mar 1999 01:58:31 +0100, Anatol Quabach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Tommy Willoughby wrote:
>> I'm running RedHat 5.2 and re-compiled the stock 2.0.36 kernel and
>> modules.
>>
>> All went ok (the boot process whizzes now!) but it's looking for sound
>> and midi which are now compiled-in.
>>
>> I see that /etc/conf.modules contains the config instructions for these
>> and my guess is that it's this file which is causing the failed search
>> at boot. Is there some step I missed which would re-generate this file
>> for my new setup, or should I edit it by hand?
>
>/etc/modules ?
>
I don't know about Redhat but on on Slackware, I generate a new
/etc/modules.conf file with the following command:
modprobe -c > /etc/modules.conf
or
modprobe -c > /etc/conf.modules
whichever you prefer.
--
Frank Hahn
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Subject: Re: How I want to configure my office
Date: 5 Mar 1999 03:41:35 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 03 Mar 1999 10:40:52 PST, O'Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have a small office providing professional services. Currently, we
>have five desktop computers linked on an ethernet (bnp) network. All
>of the machines run windows something, and a couple of the machines
>are dual boot (linux/windows).
>
>It is my ambition to eliminate windows from the workplace to the
>extent possible, but I have concluded that it is not possible to
>eradicate altogether it for a number of reasons, including
>availability of software and the need to keep using certain windows
>based programs.
>
>Windows is a disaster in a network environment, and therefore I would
>like to have linux handle as much of the networking as possible. The
>principals functions I would like it to handle are printing and file
>serving.
>
>I have a couple of old Pentium 60s that I am thinking of replacing.
>The machines work just fine, however, and I'm wondering if these boxes
>won't serve as linux based servers, handling the printing and file
>serving functions. Well, actually, I'm not wondering all the much, as
>I'm pretty sure there's no reason they couldn't.
>
>I have been tinkering with Linux for 6 months now, and although I
>really like it, I don't have the time or the expertise (or the time to
>acquire the expertise) needed to revamp the office's computers and
>network. On the other hand, I don't want to add new computers and get
>further and further into the windows trap.
>
>I am willing to pay someone to set up my computers and networks. Does
>anyone know of anyone reputable in New York City, and what should I
>expect to pay for services of this type?
>
>Thanks for any ideas or assistance.
>
At one time, the people who publish Linux Journal, had a place where
User Groups could register or something like that. Maybe you could
track down such a group in your area and see if someone would be
willing to do what you want.
Here are a couple of web addresses to try and see if you can find any
information:
http://www.ssc.com
http://linuxjournal.com
If you have the networking part down, I would think you are the biggest
part of the way there.
--
Frank Hahn
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From: Jimmy Navarro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Starting X at boot
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 23:57:56 -0800
John Hasler wrote:
> Nick Brown writes:
> > Now I've changed my mind (of course) - where do I add XDM ?
>
> Edit /etc/X11/config and change "no-start-xdm" to "start-xdm".
> --
> John Hasler This posting is in the public domain.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will.
> Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind.
> Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
Is that only for Debian? How about in Red Hat 5.2?
--
Jimmy Navarro KE6FPK
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Starting X at boot
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 09:03:18 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks !
John Hasler wrote:
>
> Edit /etc/X11/config and change "no-start-xdm" to "start-xdm".
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|\ | o _ |/ Life's like a jigsaw
| \| | |_ |\ You get the straight bits
But there's something missing in the middle
Nick Brown, Strasbourg, France (Nick(dot)Brown(at)coe(dot)fr)
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: libXpm.so.4 - still not working
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 09:06:12 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Still trying to get WordPerfect to work. xwp complains that it "can't
load library libXpm.so.4". Other components of WP have the same problem
during the installation.
libXpm.so.4 is in /usr/X11R6/lib. It's a symbolic link to
libXpm.so.<version> (sorry, not on my Linux machine right now). Is
there some minimum version it should point to ? WINE runs fine and I
believe that "needs" libXpm. Or is there some kind of registry (God
forbid) where I have to tell WP or other programs to find libraries ?
Maybe the problem is that it can't find any X libs and this is just the
first one it complains about ?
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|\ | o _ |/ Life's like a jigsaw
| \| | |_ |\ You get the straight bits
But there's something missing in the middle
Nick Brown, Strasbourg, France (Nick(dot)Brown(at)coe(dot)fr)
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From: "Quiney, Philip (EXCHANGE:HAL02:HM10)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to find processor type? uname -p failes
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 07:56:18 +0000
n@m wrote:
>
> # uname --processor
> unknown
>
> any idea how to fix this?
>
> (linux red-hat 5.2)
>
> thanks,
> n
uname -m (aka uname --machine see man uname)
Alternatively
cat /proc/cpuinfo
Amongst loads of stuff you will find the processor type, whether it has
MMX, co processor etc.
Regards
Phil Q
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 09:17:47 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Don't compare Linux with Windows 98. Compare it with NT. Linux still
has a load of advantages, but even M$ wouldn't claim that 98 competes
with a protected-mode OS like Linux. Multitasking in NT is quite OK,
and the multithreading works really well (compared to 98 anyway).
Donn Miller wrote:
>
> * Multitasking -- Windows 98 multitasking is still a joke. However, M$
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|\ | o _ |/ Life's like a jigsaw
| \| | |_ |\ You get the straight bits
But there's something missing in the middle
Nick Brown, Strasbourg, France (Nick(dot)Brown(at)coe(dot)fr)
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 09:18:01 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Don't compare Linux with Windows 98. Compare it with NT. Linux still
has a load of advantages, but even M$ wouldn't claim that 98 competes
with a protected-mode OS like Linux. Multitasking in NT is quite OK,
and the multithreading works really well (compared to 98 anyway).
Donn Miller wrote:
>
> * Multitasking -- Windows 98 multitasking is still a joke. However, M$
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|\ | o _ |/ Life's like a jigsaw
| \| | |_ |\ You get the straight bits
But there's something missing in the middle
Nick Brown, Strasbourg, France (Nick(dot)Brown(at)coe(dot)fr)
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From: Jimmy Navarro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Red Hat 5.2 & Netscape Communicator 4.07
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 00:13:10 -0800
This NC 4.07, IMHO, is a lot more stable than the latest NC 4.05.
However, how come the Location Bar always goes to the top most column
while Navigation Bar is below it? Is it possible to customize the
arrange of the tool bars?
--
Jimmy Navarro KE6FPK
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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 02:33:40 -0600
From: Ryan Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Backup software
Rick Knight wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a backup/restore program for Linux (RH 5.2) and
> X? I have a Seagate STT28000n SCSI Travan tape drive GUI based program
> to use with it. I've tried Knox's ARKEIA but it seems to buggy and the
> backup utility that comes with KDE doesn't support my drive.
>
> Thanks
> Rick Knight
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
lone tar is great its a text interface but it will get your job done well
all the time
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From: Daemonspawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Major Linux News Portal
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 00:50:41 GMT
The Age/Fairfax IT
Major Australian IT News Linux portal
5 Jan 1999
Using Windows to Rival Windows
Australian educated Carsten Haitzler (AKA Rasterman) is developing a graphical
user interface to put friendlier face on Linux.
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/990105/software/software2.html
7 Jan 1999 Corel, Wang Unite for Global Support The quest to make the popular
freeware operating system, Linux, more attractive to corporate buyers hit a
new mark yesterday with the agreement by Wang Global to provide worldwide
hardware support services for Corel's Netwinder range of network computers.
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/breaking/915682195.html
9 Jan 1999 Hackers Force Gates to Open Windows The battle for your computer's
hard drive is shaping up to be a contest between the mighty empire of Bill
Gates and a loose cadre of devoted hackers. And quietly backing the renegades
are some of the most powerful names in the computer industry - IBM, Intel,
Netscape and America Online among others.
http://www.theage.com.au/daily/990109/news/news52.html
11 Jan 1999
Games Leader Announces Linux Port
An indication of the growing popularity of the freeware Linux operating system
can be gauged by the decision of id software's John Carmack to release games
simultaneously for Windows, Mac and Linux.
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/breaking/916032205.html
12 Jan 1999
Dell Plans Cut-Down Linux Server
DELL looks set to release an officially supported cut-down server based on the
freeware Linux operating system within the next three months to drive sales in
the booming entry-level market, a senior company official said.
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/990112/industry/industry7.html
12 Jan 1999
Fiat keeps open mind on new platform
A BITTER experience with closed systems has caused the Australian arm of the
Fiat group's international truck making giant, IVECO, to move to ``scarier''
open systems for its business survival.
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/990112/industry/industry2.html
14 Jan 1999
Linux Gets a Mouthpiece
Signalling the rapid commercialisation of the free software movement, leading
Linux distributor, Red Hat has appointed a full-time public relations agency.
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/breaking/916279408.html
15 Jan 1999 Linux to Get Creative Partner THE world's biggest maker of
multimedia hardware has telegraphed its intentions to officially support the
open source operating system, Linux.
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/breaking/916357609.html
19 Jan 1999
Free fighter signs up
A MELBOURNE company is the first in Australia to be accredited as a Red Hat
support partner for the increasingly popular freeware Linux operating system.
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/990119/industry/industry1.html
19 Jan 1999 Riding software's next big wave of opportunity A CHANCE vacancy
found on a napkin at a computing conference in the US landed an Australian
Linux programmer a job with one of the world's hottest firewall vendors.
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/990119/software/software2.html
22 Jan 1999
Readers set to Abandon Windows
The days of Microsoft's desktop dominance could be numbered, if respondents to
an IT poll this week are an indication.
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/breaking/916967205.html
22 Jan 1999 Linux Kernel 2.2.0 Released THE much-anticipated Final Linux 2.2
Kernel has been released. Developer Linus Torvalds made the announcement on
the Linux Kernel mailing list yesterday afternoon. Last May, Torvalds told
users to expect the update in July, but delays with code reviews and building
in new features caused that date to slip.
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/breaking/916973837.html
22 Jan 1999
Microsoft Plugs Loophole
IF you are one of the millions considering getting a refund from Microsoft for
an unwanted copy of Windows bundled with your new PC, think again.
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/990119/industry/industry11.html
26 Jan 1999 Small assemblers urged to `get tough' to survive THE director of
Victorian computer peripherals distributor, Westan, has urged small computer
assemblers to get tough, smart or big to combat incursions by big
competitors. http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/990126/industry/industry2.html
26 Jan 1999
Maturing Meta swells analyst ranks
Meta Group's founder, Dale Kutnick, dismisses Linux as serious competition to
Microsoft hegemony.
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/990126/industry/industry1.html
26 Jan 1999 Code Donors are Open for Business OPEN source software, once
derided by the IT establishment as anarchic programming by committee, has
emerged from the wilderness of ideology to become a serious money spinner.
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/990126/software/software3.html
2 Feb 1999 Open source trends
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/990202/openline.html Open source is not a
panacea, just a tool. There are still problems associated with its use,
including the legal liability of opening existing closed, proprietary
efforts to open development. Vendors, from the PC multimedia peripheral maker
Creative to Sun Microsystems and the mighty IBM, are struggling to balance
the wants of the open source community with existing business practices
9 Feb 1999
Michael Cowpland reveals Linux roadmap
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/990209/software/software8.html
"Michael Cowpland: The adoption of Linux as an OS will continue to grow
exponentially over the next few years. This new OS provides many exciting
opportunities for independent developers and software companies alike."
9 Feb 1999 Linux to steal NT thunder
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/990209/openline1.html Hewlett-Packard's
Australian market development manager for the Netserver, David Booth, expects
Linux to steal market share from Windows NT this year and next.
10 Feb 1999
Major vendors host Linux-specific sites
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/breaking/918616550.html
Several major server hardware makers have inaugurated official Linux Web sites
in the last week, further expanding their support of the nascent enterprise
platform.
16 Feb 1999 The Slashdot Effect
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/990216/industry/it1.html If your Web server just
keeled over, or you cannot work out why your site recorded more traffic in an
hour than it usually does in a year, chances are you have already experienced
it." Slashdot and its ilk such as Linux Weekly News, LinuxToday and Freshmeat
are part of a growing trend towards portals geared to tight communities of
interests.
16 Feb 1999
World lines up for Samba
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/990216/software/software6.html
Gates' latest headache is making life easier for system administrators and
business managers."
Samba's ability to share files and devices over connections between NT and
Unix-flavored machines has gathered recognition. Recent advances in the code
that helped Samba replace NT servers in the enterprise had met with a chilly
response from Microsoft. Attempts to write for greater NT integration were
thwarted by Microsoft's refusal to document some aspects of the SMB protocol.
16 Feb 1999 VA Research plans Australian move
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/990216/openline1.html California's VA
Research... is preparing to spread its wings to Australia. In an exclusive
interview, the company's founder and chief executive, Larry Augustin, said
"there's a big market outside America and it would be silly not to go
there... We're putting together a manufacturing model that will move to any
country quickly."
16 Feb 1999
Vertical portals gather adherents
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/990216/industry/industry2.html
Community-based portals are generating an increasing amount of interest for
their ability to drive traffic. The new-generation vertical portals appeal to
narrow niche groups of interests, able to service enthusiasts' needs with
laser-like clarity.
18 Feb 1999
Compaq Exec: No alternative to Windows
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/breaking/919297897.html
Testifying at the Microsoft antitrust trial, Compaq Senior Vice President John
T. Rose said more than 90% of Compaq's PCs ship with Windows. The remaining
machines that ship with no operating system end up using alternatives such as
the freeware Linux.
23 Feb 1999
Intel blows apart Microsoft defence
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/990223/openline1.html
It's hard to see Linux taking over Microsoft." -- Rick Echevarria, director of
Internet marketing in the Intel Enterprise Server Group
3 Mar 1999
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/breaking/920342331.html
Vendors get behind Linux
SEVERAL companies unveiled products to operate through the Linux operating
system on Monday.
3 Mar 1999 Linux hold Microsoft to Ransom
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/columns/openline/index.html Ransom Love, CEO of
Caldera Systems, talks about the company's plans for future distributions.
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From: Michael Proto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X artifacts after X is shutdown?
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 08:39:18 +0000
Hello,
I'm currently running Redhat 5.1 with XFree86-3.3.2. I recently upgraded
to XFree86-3.3.3.1 using RPMs from Redhat's ftp site. Since I've
upgraded, I have a problem where X leaves little white artifacts on the
screen when its shutdown and returns to the console. These white
"blotches" appear in random places throughout the screen each time,
usually 2cm long and 4cm tall. It doesn't happen all of the time;
usually happens after X has been running for over 15 minutes. If I
restart X, then immediately close it again, it disappears.
I'm using a Matrox Mystique 170MHZ PCI video card with 2MB RAM. I ran
XF86Setup after installing the new version of X, and selected all
appropriate information (PS2 mouse, Mystique card, correct monitor
resolution and color depth-- 1024x768x16bpp). I was running this same
setup with X 3.3.2. I've checked the Matrox documentation from
xfree86.org, as well as the general documentation, but I cannot find any
reference to this problem. If anyone has or had a similar experience,
please let me know. Thanks!
Mike
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-] Michael Proto [-
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From: o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s (david parsons)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs LINUX
Date: 4 Mar 1999 20:41:42 -0800
In article <L1GD2.9858$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 3 Mar 1999 15:07:39 -0800, david parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> ____
>> david parsons \bi/ If you're going to do this, lemme know: the FreeBSD
>> \/ kernel is about as different from linux 2.0 as Linux
>> 2.2 is.
>
>And is the fact of the difference a bad thing?
Not if you don't care about backwards compatability.
I find that if I convert any of my Linux 2.0.28 systems to 2.2.x,
I'll have to root through a pretty substantial part of the system
programs on the distribution and _rewrite them_ for the new kernel.
Plus I may have to hack libc to make it work with 2.2.x. At this
point, I've basically changed operating systems, because I won't
be able to go back if 2.2.x goes balls-up on me.
It's no secret that I've been somewhat less that pleased with the
disregard for backwards compatability that the linux development
community has. If the FreeBSD core team cares about backwards
compatability (I've got FreeBSD distributions going back to 1.5,
so I can actually test this), it makes FreeBSD, even though it
has a smaller development base and thus less hardware support,
much more appealing than Linux. In the past, the reasons I've
had for staying with Linux are (a) it's the most popular Unix
variant, (b) it runs about as well as FreeBSD, (c) there's no
`Core Team', and (d) it's less of a pain to stick with the system I
have than to rip everything down to the ground and start afresh.
Well, (a) is now working against Linux, because it looks like Linux
has won and the rising tide will lift ALL of the free Unices (And
I'm fairly burned out after spending the last six years pushing Linux
like it was the second coming of Christ), (b) is still true, thank
heavens, (c) is no longer true, and (d) if I have to rip everything
down to the ground to fit 2.2.x into my distribution, well, I'm in
the same boat as I would be if I switched distributions.
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david parsons \bi/ And I'm getting old and don't have the patience to
\/ deal with another generation of naive college students
reinventing the wheel in yet another incompatable
fashion.
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