Linux-Misc Digest #967, Volume #19 Tue, 27 Apr 99 22:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Open Source Software at 1999 USENIX Annual Conference--Reg Savings until May 3
(Jennifer Radtke)
problems with Caldera 1.3 ("Kevin")
Processes swapping between Processors (James V. Di Toro III)
Re: How to get Panasonic CD-ROM 2 work? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: SiS 6326 AGP configuration. (David Cougle)
Re: Problem with the Qt GUI application (Dustin Puryear)
Re: I need help keeping the correct time (Mihaly Gyulai)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Burning playable music CD's (jik-)
Re: Compiled program seems too large (fred smith)
Re: cdrdao (Arcady Genkin)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Keven R. Pittsinger)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Keven R. Pittsinger)
Re: PostgreSQL help needed. (Enkidu)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jennifer Radtke)
Subject: Open Source Software at 1999 USENIX Annual Conference--Reg Savings until May 3
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:06:20 GMT
Top developers, systems administrators, and other UNIX gurus get the why as
well as the how-to at the renown USENIX Annual Conference. The USENIX
Conference takes place June 6-11, 1999, in Monterey, California. Programs
for the tutorial and technical sessions, including the FREENIX track, and
associated events are online. Please go to
http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix99
The FREENIX track is devoted to high level technical discussion of open
source software. FREENIX, now in its third year, offers peer-refereed
papers, expert talks, and evening sessions led by leading developers.
USENIX has also provided a grant to the OpenBSD development project to
support a new release. It will be distributed for free at the conference.
USENIX is helping to ensure that the development process for open source
software will continue to be characterized by intense yet healthy
competition.
The refereed papers are on topics of especially high interest: management
of resource systems, file systems, virtual memory systems, storage systems,
security, web server performance and O/S performance. The Invited talks
concentrate on the extremely practical; topics include: UNIX/Open System &
Y2K, IP Multicast, E-mail Bombs, IPv6, IP Telephony.
John Ousterhout, creator of Tcl/Tk and leading figure in the open source
world will deliver the conference keynote. His attention is on a
fundamental shift in software development to integration applications -
created by coordinating and extending existing applications, protocols,
frameworks, and devices.
24 tutorials are being offered over three days, with Eric Allman, Tom
Christiansen, Peter Galvin, Evi Nemeth, and Marcus Ranum among the
instructors. Courses range over systems administration, security, Linux,
high availability, kernel internals, Perl, performance tuning, network
programming and configuration, and more.
As always, there's lots of discussion in the halls, over beers, and, this
year, at the desserts Reception in the fantastic Monterey Bay Aquarium.
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USENIX is a not-for-profit society with an international membership of
scientists, engineers, and system administrators working on the cutting
edge of systems and software. For 25 years USENIX conferences and workshops
have emphasized the free exchange of technical ideas unfettered by
stodginess or commercialism.
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From: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: problems with Caldera 1.3
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:55:10 -0500
Reply-To: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I''m sort of a newbie and have used redhat 5.2 and caldera. Redhat won't
find my 3c509b and caldera does fine. However caldera has failed to boot and
required reinstalls twice. Both times after trying to mount my nt drive in
fstab. I seem to have problems with mounting in caldera where redhat was
easy. any advice. Please reply to email
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks
Kevin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James V. Di Toro III)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Processes swapping between Processors
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:48:10 GMT
I'm having a problem w/ a new SMP system.
I purchased a Dual P3 500Mhz system to do some scientific processing.
A normal process takes arround 100-300MB memory, and can take hours to
days to process at 95% CPU even on a P2 400. So when I put two of
these prcesses on the Dual P3 and I have a problem. It seems that
the processes will flip flop between the CPUs, and there is an
inordinate about of time being spent doing 'system' processing.
Unfortunately I have no way to prove this is happening since you can't
see what process is on what CPU when.
The only evidince I have for this is watching 'xosview'. Both
processors will be going along with a full load, mostly 'user' and
then they will both drop off and be fully loaded w/ 'system'.
Needless to say this makes the system incredibly slow. Any other
activity at all takes forever, including the 'xosview' (or a top) to
see what's going on.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to get Panasonic CD-ROM 2 work?
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:29:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Alan W. Jurgensen"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I have an older OPTi 82C929 sound card with proprietary panasonic CR-562
>CD-ROM...
>
>I'm tring to install Red-Hat 5.2 ... no dice. Have tried
>soundblaster/panasonic CD-ROM type... but wont detect it.
>
>So, Ive verified it works in dos with Opti Sound/CD-ROM drivers...
>
>Tried Toms 1 Disk Linux system... and tried loading isp16 cd-rom driver which
>states opti support... It seems to load and detect
>cdrom interface ok... BUT how to access drive? what is the device file? HELP
>!
Under RH5.1 the /dev/cdrom is the device I reference
but that is also a sym link to /dev/hdc... the actual
device name.
If you suspect that the drivers are loaded and are
detecting the drive then try mounting it with:
mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
This assumes that /mnt/cdrom exists, if not then just
create /cdrom and mount it there. Make sure you do the
following when done, umount /dev/cdrom to unmount the
device. Aside from that read the man pages for mount
and umount. Good luck.
j.
>Does slackware have support for this drive/card combo?
>
>any help appreciated, al-man
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
From: David Cougle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SiS 6326 AGP configuration.
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 00:45:50 -0500
Are you using Option "no_bitblt"
? I am, and it makes it scroll REAL slow.
how to get around it?
On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, mike wrote:
> didn't have this problem. Anybody know?
>
> Mike
>
> David Cougle wrote:
> >
> > When you use nobitblt, it makes scrolling go slow! how to fix this?
> >
> > On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, mike wrote:
> >
> > > start here
> > >
> > > http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html#sis
> > >
> > > For suse 6.0 there is already a driver. You may still have to edit the
> > > config file
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The lines are:
> > >
> > > Videoram 8192
> > > Option "noaccel"
> > > Option "nobitblt"
> > > Option "sw_cursor" #the 8MB Ram gave a wierd cursor this solved it
> > >
> > > I would edit the file with one change, test the effect by starting x
> > > windows. Then repeat. Start with Option "noaccel", (check the readme
> > > file that comes with the SiS server you down load from www.suse.com. for
> > > the actual spelling of the options.) Plus, I'm going to send you a copy
> > > of my config a little later. I just realize that I'm assuming you have
> > > already downloaded the SiS server for www.suse.com. Start there if you
> > > haven't already.
> > >
> > > get files from http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html#sis
> > >
> > > read it
> > >
> > > The information below helped some with xf86 3.3.2.x should be
> > > applicable for 3.3.3.X.
> > >
> > > Good luck
> > >
> > > Oh yes
> > >
> > > I've been getting lots of email on this so I'm reposting my earlier
> > > findings. If someone could tell me what works for them I would
> > > appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > Well a couple of us had the same problem.
> > >
> > > download the servers from
> > > http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html#sis
> > > follow the instructions to install those
> > >
> > > run xf86configurator (sp?)
> > >
> > > you may find that it still doesn't quit work.
> > >
> > > In the video card section where you can add options, by peruseing
> > > through
> > > the xf86Config file (again sp?) you'll see example configurations
> > > commented
> > > out.
> > >
> > > again in the video card section add the following option combinations.
> > >
> > > my config
> > >
> > > VideoRam 8192
> > > Option "no_accel"
> > > Option "no_bitblt"
> > >
> > > another person suggested
> > >
> > > VideoRam 4096
> > > Option "no_accel"
> > >
> > > another person suggested
> > >
> > > VideoRam 8192
> > > Option "no_accel"
> > > Option "no_linnear"
> > >
> > > Roland Raveh wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi, I have the same problem, so maybe you could tell me how it work's.
> > > > I've Suse 6.0 and a SiS 6326 AGP Video-card.
> > > > Thanks Roland Raveh
> > > >
> > > > ______________________________________________________
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> > >
> > >
> >
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> > Proverbs 15:3
> > "We will not be the alternative, we will set the trend"
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: Problem with the Qt GUI application
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:03:11 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 25 Apr 1999 20:34:21 -0700, Jason Bond wrote:
>I have installed the file qt-1.42-3rh51.i386.rpm on my
>Red Hate 5.2.2 kernel and when I try to compile programs
>they can't seem to find it. Usually the programs are looking
>for Qt 1.4 (instead of 1.42). Should I download 1.4 and install
>that as well? Thanks much in advance,
Is the problem that they can't find Qt v1.4, or they can't find Qt at all?
Make sure that your Qt environmental variables are set, or supply the
correct paths to configure. Good luck.
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From: Mihaly Gyulai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I need help keeping the correct time
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 05:40:17 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
El Capitan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can't get linux to keep the correct time. Can anyone help?
Of course. Yet it's a hw problem, it can be corrected with Linux.
Read : man hwclock, it's a good tool !!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 05:44:18 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jim Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> GNU reeks of Commumism. I'll tell you why:
The whole concept of GNU is rather interesting. It consists of both communism
in it's purest form, and free-enterprise in it's purest form.
> 1) Karl Marx is famous for his Manifesto.
> GNU software includes a "Manifesto" file.
This was probably intentional knowing Richard Stallman. Stallman wrote the
Manefesto shortly after Gosling took Stallman's version of emacs, which he had
put in public domain, and proceeded to add proprietary extensions while
refusing share any of the benefits (royalties, enhancements, derivitave
products, ...) with Stallman. In effect, Gosling tried to steal emacs from
Stallman, who was a student or teacher at the time.
Stallman did a very capitalist thing. He went to a lawyer to find out how to
secure his copyright (initially in net.legal), and had some lawyers write up
a license agreement that we now know as the General Public License. Stallman
then published his agreement to the internet to get feedback. After about a
year of haggling, the GPL took it's current form.
The other very capitalist thing Stallman did was offer to sell his archive for
$400/copy on magnetic Tape. This may seem like a large amount of money for
"free software", but to a UNIX community accustomed to paying as much as
$50,000 for a single application, it was the deal of the century. Production
managers loved GNU software because they could put out their own fires.
An even more capitalistic thing happened after that. UNIX hackers all over
the country started selling GNU support agreements. Prices ranged from
$10/user/month and $100/server/month to $100/user/month and
$10,000/server/month depending on the quality of service you wanted. If you
just wanted a monthly upload to a shared drive, the price was low. If you
wanted the dumbest questions of you dumbest users answered any time, day or
night, by a live operator, that was very expensive. To an operations
manager, being able to choose from different vendors who could promise, and
deliver 24/7 availability on production systems, it was a pretty good deal.
> 2) The Bolsheviks wanted to spread their Communist
revolution all over the globe.
Ray Crock wanted to open McDonald's all over the world too. When you have a
good idea and you can help people, and you can do it at a fair price, it
catches on fast. I'm surprised that Stallman didn't franchise the support
operation. That is in effect what Red Hat is doing with Linux. Who knows,
maybe in a few years, you can go to the shopping center and go to the Red Hat
Kiosk and get a support contract.
Ray Crock didn't invent the hamburger, he didn't invent the milk shake (he
was actually trying to sell mixers originally), and he didn't invent the
french fries. What he did was take the basic meat, milk, bread, potato, and
vegatable (pickle) and packaged it at a price that was easy to afford, in a
format that was easy to access.
> Using the Internet, a "free software revolution" is now spreading globally.
Linux is a symptom of a much larger revolution. We're actually seeing the
formation of a global democracy. In usenet newsgroups, web sites, and chat
rooms, people are able to examine complex issues that have plagued mankind
since the dawn of history, and come up with real solutions.
We've seen the genetic code cracked through the Genome project. In the
politics groups, we've seen the diffusion of the cold war, the opening for
peace in the Middle East, and the possibility of economic abundance on a
global scale. We've seen the infant mortality rate drop by more than 45% in
the last 10 years. We've seen an increase in international trade that was
unimaginable only 8 years ago.
Rather than people being powerless victims of a government that doesn't care
and in which they can't make a difference, people are able to discuss the
issues for which they believe they can make a difference, and contribute.
Rather than get caught up in the heated argument of a face-to-face
confrontation where knee-jerk reactions often derail the best of intentions,
the contributors are forced to put their contributions into writing. They
are forced to take the time to carefully consider their responses.
> 3) Linux is getting lots of media attention these days, scaring Microsoft
> and Microsoft investors.
> That is reminiscent of the "Red Scare" that occured in the US in the 1950s.
Microsoft is a well established company with interests in hundreds of
secondary companies ranging in everything from banking and finance to cable
television and sattellite interests. The joint holdings of the top ten
shareholders of Microsoft would amaze even the Securities Exchange
Commission.
Paul Allen owns almost as much interest in Microsoft's competitors, such as
AOL, as he owns in Microsoft. Gates owns shares of PrimeStar, MSNBC, and
thousands of other companies.
If Linux became an overnight success and Microsoft didn't sell another copy
of Microsoft Windows, it would still be an incredibly successful company.
Greyhound doesn't drive buses anymore (Greyhound makes them, Trailways drives
them). Goodyear doesn't make rubber tires anymore (synthetic is much
better), and McDonalds doesn't own restaurants any more. In each case, these
companies underwent a paradigm shift. Companies who adapt well to paradigm
shifts do very well. When a company clings to an old paradigm, the way
Chrysler clung to the notion that people wanted big muscle cars in the late
1970s, when gas was $2/gallon, they don't do so well. Every indication is
that Microsoft is actually preparing to adapt to the paradigm shift if, and
when, it occurrs.
Microsoft is already beginning to take back much of it's customer service
functions, a practical move in the service oriented Linux market. They are
prepared to implement Linux versions of popular software (the UNIX versions
could be ported in a matter of a few weeks - it probably has been ported and
the masters are in a vault somewhere.
> 4) The press calls Richard Stallman a fanatic...
> ...and they also called Vladimir Lenin a fanatic.
They also called Ghandi a fanatic, they called Martin Luther King a fanatic,
they called Ronald Reagan a fanatic, they even called Richard Nixon a fanatic.
Each used unconventional means to improve quality of life for not only the
peaple they directly served, but also to the world at large. Ghandi show the
world that killing, shooting, and bloodshed is not the only way to instigate
change, even revolution or independence from one of the largest and oldest
empires in history. Today, several wars have been ended through nonviolent
demonstrations.
Martin Luthor King didn't advocate overthrowing the white government, he stood
for a world where people would be judget by the quality of their character,
rather than the color of their skin. After that, it stopped being about black
vs white. It started to be about bringing out the best in honorable, decent
people who are willing to work hard, live well, and serve others.
Ronald Reagan used the threat of immediate holocaust as a real and immediate
possibility to create the willingness for not only the Soviets, but also the
Amarican Military Industrial Complex, to stop spending billions of dollars to
build missles we didn't need, didn't want to use, and didn't really even
want, and start to focus on the real issues of creating stable economies in
both countries such that Nuclear stockpiling would not be necessary. Reagan
was able to make his own daughter think he was ready to push the button,
"just for fun".
Richard Stallman, and the original authors of the GPL, had an unconventional
vision themselves. After seeing companies like IBM and DEC attempt to hold
corporations hostage under the threat of MVS or VMS license revocation, he saw
the possibility of documents, stored on electronic media, in a publicly
available format, that could be viewed using software that could be easily
distributed. In effect, he was willing to give away the telephones, if only
because the real money was in sharing the wires.
AT&T actually discovered by accident, that divestature was actually one of
the best things that could have happened to them. By breaking up the
monopoly, AT&T and it's competitors were able to find a common ground which
enabled them to both innovate, and establish common standards by which they
could interoperate. Today, AT&T sells the phones at cost, or below, and makes
a tidy profit on the shared wire (fiber).
> 5) Those who write copy-left software work without being paid,
> for the good of the "free software community".
Mostly, the people who write copy-left software are people whose primary
function is to help their employer run a profitable business. Sendmail was
written by a group of UNIX administrators who needed technical support and
saw that electronic mail was the most cost-effective way to get it. The Web
server was developed by News publishers who saw that sending out full copies
of their publications to millions of users on huge sites like compuserve was
not going to go over with whoever was paying for the storage. The early
Mosaic browser and NCSA server were used because it was the best way to keep
control of both the content and the advertizing.
X11 was developed by administrators who needed the ability to monitor and
manage hundreds of computers distributed all over the world, from a single
console connected via TCP/IP.
Linux was developed by ISPs who needed cheap servers that could be installed
in the bedroom closet and didn't need special power, cooling, or logistical
support.
> That's communism, folks.
No, it's "Stone Soup". What Linus, or the author of Lynx, or the author of
X-wire protocol, or the author of emacs did, was take a crude implementation
of a relatively simple idea and ask for some help from a few friends. It was
like the lady who put a rock in a big kettle and started boiling it. Just as
the lady's friends started bringing some leftovers to improve the stock, so
too did thousands of anonymous contributors bring some of their own good
ideas, source code, support, or marketing skills to the table.
I'm no communist, in fact, I'm a capitalist, and an very expensive consultant.
I make a good living doing what I love to do, in part BECAUSE I contribute to
the development, marketing, and promotion of GPL software.
> P.S. This is intended as humor (and a troll) ;-)
I bit, but I posted anyway :-).
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 00:03:41 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Burning playable music CD's
> FWIW, I'm using Sony's so far with success, and I've also
> heard bad things about Imation from an acquaintance of mine.
>
> >On that subject,....I think the CD-Writing HOWTO needs to be updated, I
> >could help.....would be nice if it had a list of good vs. bad brands of
> >media for both kinds of disk.
>
> Well...those sorts of things can be hard to measure accurately;
> maybe Imation is bad, but maybe a couple people got a bad batch,
> etc. I think the HOWTOs should stick to the facts.
Imation disks seem to function ok, but I think that maybe being able to
chip off the data in your CD-R is a bad thing.....a simple scratch to an
Imation CD and all your data will simply flake right off the disk.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (fred smith)
Subject: Re: Compiled program seems too large
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:35:48 GMT
Evan Wolenzik ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi,
: When I compile the following code, my executable is 25k! Am I doing
: something wrong?
: #include <stdio.h>
: int main(void)
: {
: printf("Hello World!\n");
: return(0);
: }
: I just use gcc -o hello hello.c . Using -O[2,3] makes no difference.
I just did that, with your very program, (on RH 5.2) and got this:
-rwxrwxr-x 1 fredex fredex 4149 Apr 26 22:34 hello
-rw-rw-r-- 1 fredex fredex 83 Apr 26 22:32 hello.c
If I add '-static' to the compiler command line it bloats to nearly
a half megabyte.
Fred
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For the wages of sin is death,
but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord
============================== Romans 6:23 (niv) ==============================
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Subject: Re: cdrdao
From: Arcady Genkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:25:58 GMT
jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Your not using the generic scsi device.
> ln -s /dev/sga /dev/cdrecorder
Yes I am. Only strange that on my system is /dev/sg0, not
/dev/sga... Which kernel version do you have?
> cdrdao read toc.toc
> cdparanoia -d /dev/scd0 1-
> (course then I have to edit the toc file, your command is better)
> cdrdao write toc.toc
>
> Ill-Logic:/dos/noah/jimi# cdrdao write jimi.toc
> /dev/cdrecorder: HP CD-Writer+ 7200 Rev: 3.01 (4VO09983)
> Using driver: Generic SCSI-3/MMC (raw writing) - Version 0.1(alpha)
--
Arcady Genkin
"I opened up my wallet, and it's full of blood..." - GsYDE
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keven R. Pittsinger)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: 27 Apr 1999 06:33:40 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Jim Brooks wrote:
>> 4) The press calls Richard Stallman a fanatic...
>>
>> ...and they also called Vladimir Lenin a fanatic.
>
> Most great men are,...not saying RMS is a "great" man,....but being
> called a fanatic is nothing to be ashamed of. John Lenin's records were
> burned because he said "imagine".
OK, let's get the names straight. Vladimir Lenin. John Lennon. No
relation. Got it?
Keven
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keven R. Pittsinger)
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: 27 Apr 1999 06:30:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson) writes:
> On Sun, 25 Apr 1999 17:43:50 -0400,
> hellraiser, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> brought forth the following words...:
>
>>and this is supposed to be a bad thing?? communism is a good system,
>>except when the stupid ass dictators use it out in the far- and
>>middle-east. i guess they used 'communism', not communism. communism
>>has never existed in its pure and true form, it has just been abused.
>>karl marx was pretty smart talking about how a class-based society sucks
>>(which it DOES). down with capitalism!!!
>
> Karl Marx also began the labour camps that killed millions of Russians, and
> the agricultural policies that starved millions more.
> A real saint was ol' Karl
Karl Marx never set foot in Russia. You're thinking of Josef Stalin, the
guy who took over running the Soviet Union after Lenin died.
Keven
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From: Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PostgreSQL help needed.
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:44:13 +1200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"[...M...]" wrote:
>
> I am getting the following error when using PostgreSQL:
>
> $ psql template1
> Connection to database 'template1' failed.
> FATAL 1: SetUserId: user "marko" is not in "pg_shadow"
>
> So how do I get my userID into pg_shadow???
>
Do you have a linux user called marko? Do you have a linux user
called postgres?
If you have, have you logged on (to linux) as postgres, and added
a (postgres) user called marko, with the createuser command. I
believe you also need a (postgres) user called nobody, if you want
to access the database via apache.
Have a look at
http://cs.sau.edu/~cfisher/uw/018.html
Cliff
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