Linux-Misc Digest #274, Volume #21 Tue, 3 Aug 99 14:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: CIA assassinations ("Joseph T. Adams")
Re: Massive video flickering with Mandrake 6.0 (Habibie4m)
Re: [Help] Netscape News Client Setup ("Christopher W. Aiken")
Re: CIA assassinations ("Joseph T. Adams")
Re: Capturing video from a digital camcorder/camera through the serial port
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: CIA assassinations (Donovan Rebbechi)
artec as6u usb scanner (Ian Fiske)
Re: Which Multi-port serial for Linux 2.2? (Yan Seiner)
Re: helping the Third World (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: Good IRC client for Linux? (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: Just a suggestion... (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: CIA assassinations (MK)
Re: Problem in downloading using NetScape 4.6.1 (Thomas Zajic)
Fax & Paging Modem sharing ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: VMWare (Windows on Linux)? ("Boisy G. Pitre")
Problem in downloading using NetScape 4.6.1 ("Young4ert")
linux and Windows NT 4.0 network ("Olivier Pidoux")
Re: Brand recommendation? (Johan Kullstam)
Re: helping the Third World (MK)
Win4Lin (was Re: WABI) ("J. David Peet")
Re: VMWare (Windows on Linux)? (Uwe Bonnes)
Massive video flickering with Mandrake 6.0 (Lee Graba)
Partition Managers. ("Sid")
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From: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 3 Aug 1999 15:56:51 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In socialism, the socialist B is deciding what A is to do for C.
: Personally, I'd prefer A, B, and C all decide about themselves. Sadly,
: the European politics is now predominantly taken by those former
: sixties leftist types. Dreary.
Yeah, but it could be worse. You could have a President who doesn't
know what the definition of the word "is" is. :)
I too prefer that people be free to decide most things for themselves
(indeed, ALL things, so long as they do not harm others). That is why
even in a "democracy," if there were such a thing, there would have to
be limits on the powers government could lawfully exercise. Slavery,
genocide, etc. can never be right, even if a majority can be
temporarily persuaded that they are.
Joe
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From: Habibie4m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Massive video flickering with Mandrake 6.0
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 11:31:16 -0400
Lee Graba wrote:
>
> I just installed Mandrake 6.0, and under both KDE and Gnome, I get
> massive flickering whenever I do just about anything, such as typing,
> using the mouse, etc. It looks like all windows are being drawn about 1
> inch to the right of the actual window for a brief instant, and then
> being drawn in the correct place. I previously had Redhat 5.1 and KDE
> 1.1 installed on the system, and did not have this problem. I
> speculated that the XF86Config file was the culprit, but I had saved the
> previous one and was able to use it, but this did not solve the problem.
>
> I am using a S3 Trio64-based video card. My system is a Pentium Pro 150
> Mhz, 64 Mb of RAM.
>
> Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> --
> ===============================
> Lee Graba
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ===============================
I have similar problem is here except my video card is ATi Xpert 98
AGPx2.
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From: "Christopher W. Aiken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Help] Netscape News Client Setup
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 11:12:40 -0400
Bring up Netscape.
Then Edit ---> Preferences ---> Mail & News groups --> Newsgroup Servers
Pick your server and then pick the "EDIT" button. Check the box that
says "Only ask me when necessary........"
See if that will work for you.
...cwa
BiaBie4 wrote:
> I managed to setup the netscape with a news client. However, everytime I
> started the netscape and went to read the news, the netscape always asked
> for a user account and password. Can netscape just remember the account and
> password like the IE5?
>
> If you have managed to setup netscape with a news client withoug asking for
> a user account and password to sign-on, please let me know. Thank you.
>
> --
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>
> PS. To respond, remove "e2" from the e-mail address.
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From: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 3 Aug 1999 16:04:23 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>You also seem dangerously close to suggesting that the only
:>possible solutions are hard-line capitalism and hard line communism. It
:>might interest some of the people in this thread to discover that there
:>are people who do not see either of the two as optimal.
: Those who want to go the third way when seeing the fork in the
: road, usually end up crashing.
It's just as well. Both roads go to a bad place, and, indeed, the
*same* bad place.
The issue to me is not whether an all-powerful government should
pursue left-wing or right-wing policies.
The issue is why should we ever tolerate an all-powerful government in
the first place?
I'm no more proud of the crimes committed by my own "government" than
those committed by its ideological opponents. When a little child is
murdered, or starves to death, that little child's suffering is just
as horrible no matter whose ideology caused it.
But people who are free, and understand the responsibilities inherent
in that freedom, seldom commit crimes, even given the opportunity.
And virtually all large-scale crimes are committed by all-powerful
governments, or their agents.
Government is a necessary evil, but it is evil, and it should never be
allowed to become larger than is absolutely necessary. Even Marx
conceded this point, although sadly most of his followers do not.
Joe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Capturing video from a digital camcorder/camera through the serial port
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 16:29:20 GMT
In article <7o6o8d$t42$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dr. Ram Samudrala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is there any software for Linux out there that can capture video or
>still images from a digital camera through the serial port? I have a
>JVC camcorder and there exists a Windows program that can capture
>still images through the serial port.
>
>Thanks.
>
>--Ram
You might try http://www.gphoto.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 3 Aug 1999 12:29:45 -0400
On Tue, 03 Aug 1999 13:44:48 GMT, MK wrote:
>>Education. As far as I know, USAmerican education is pretty much a
>>joke compared to, say, German education.
>
>That is true, absolutely. Education. This may be a point. Funny
>thing is, the more US spends on education, the worse results
>it gets.
Can you back this up with some facts ? I'm not denying this, I'm just
curious as to what the real trends are.
>But the US educational system was faring a lot better in the past!
Evidence ?
>50 years ago it was a lot different.
What was the literacy rate of black Americans in the 40s ? What percentage
of Americans graduated from high school ... ?
--
Donovan
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From: Ian Fiske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: artec as6u usb scanner
Date: 3 Aug 1999 16:30:35 GMT
i heard that some of the newer development kernels have support for usb.
does anyone out there know if there is support for the artec as6u scanner
yet?
thanks,
ian
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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which Multi-port serial for Linux 2.2?
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 12:15:18 -0400
I've had good luck with the digi products. Pricy, but very good and
fast.
Yan
Chris Raper wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I need to find an multi-port, serial expansion solution for my Linux
> box. The box must be able to run at least 16 serial ports. On SCO
> machines I have always used Specialix SI-XIO but I am having a devil
> of a job finding drivers and getting them to work. Is there a
> 'standard' brand that Cladera 2.2 Linux will run with the minimum of
> hassle?
>
> Many thanks
> Chris R.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: helping the Third World
Date: 3 Aug 1999 12:15:11 -0400
On Tue, 03 Aug 1999 14:44:46 GMT, MK wrote:
>>Wealth is already being redistributed in almost every reasonably
>>advanced economy.
>
>And such economies stutter. Go to France.
Wealth is also redistributed in the USA. Just because *excessive*
redistribution may be detrimental doesn't mean that *any* redistirution
is.
>>In our country (USA) we do this through transfer payments and a
>>progressive tax system. There are other methods that might be better
>>(but I don't really want to get into all that).
>
>Yeah, you're doing good job. You've already ruined US education.
Nonsense. The US education system has been ruined by an inequitable
school financing system. Developed countries whose education policies
are more progressive have considerably stronger high school education
systems.
--
Donovan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To: alt.irc.questions
Subject: Re: Good IRC client for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 16:41:27 GMT
Captain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I use a client called cIRCus. Like others its not as good as mIRC, but
>>you get a similar interface to mIRC, a window for each channel, private
>>conversation or dcc session, just no scripting....... but if you're that
>>desperate, you can always edit the code ;)
"As good as mIRC"?!?
Find me an IRC client as good as OPENCHAT and I'm sold! :>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: Just a suggestion...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 16:35:04 GMT
On 3 Aug 1999 01:14:31 GMT, Robert V. Grizzard wrote:
>That is the beauty of Usenet -- there is no sole single individual (in an
>unmoderated newsgroup) who says, "This post may pass; that one shall not".
>Jim,if you and Jeff (and I, for that matter) wish to post off-topic (again,
>for the benefit of all you veteran Usenetters, I'm speaking here of
>*un*moderated newsgroups) you (and I) may. There is none who may stop us.
The beauty of human nature, of course, is that when one notices that they
are posting off-topic they may chose to set the Followup-To: to a more
appropriate place.
alt.dev.nul would fit much of the discussion, me thinks.
>Were I to make one suggestion it would be to use an actual newsreader with
>killfile functionality rather than Netscape. This will subtract huge amounts
>from your irritation.
That might be possible; except for the fact that more posters seem to join the
discussion every day, and with every new poster comes a new subject line.
Geesh.. Atleast filtering sex ads is easy!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MK)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 14:19:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 30 Jul 1999 22:51:00 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan
Rebbechi) wrote:
>>That is a great idea. I'd love to see all the American socialists move to
>>Europe and all the European free market capitalists move to America. Then
>I think it's very simple minded to assume that those who aren't extreme
>rightists are all communists.
>You also seem dangerously close to suggesting that the only
>possible solutions are hard-line capitalism and hard line communism. It
>might interest some of the people in this thread to discover that there
>are people who do not see either of the two as optimal.
Those who want to go the third way when seeing the fork in the
road, usually end up crashing.
Marcin Krol
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Subject: Re: Problem in downloading using NetScape 4.6.1
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 16:34:36 GMT
On Tue, 3 Aug 1999 14:03:37 -0400, Young4ert wrote:
> Whenever downloading using netscape is interrupted by modem disconnection,
> the NetScape 4.6.1 does not perform a "reget" to continue the download,
> instead it does the "get" command to freshly download the file. This is
> kind of a nuissance if one has to download a big 20MB using a 56K modem.
> Does NetScape 4.6.1 provide a setup to change the "get" to a "reget"
> command?
Is there a particular reason why you absolutely have to use
Netscape to download? Try one of the many available FTP clients,
or if it's an http:// URL, simply use wegt: right-click on
the link, select "Copy this link to clipboard", open (or switch
to) an xterm, do 'wget -c' <middle mouse button>.
> AFAIK, IE5 does support a "reget" command.
And your point is?
HTH,
Thomas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Fax & Paging Modem sharing
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 16:24:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm trying to setup a pc that will be running both qpage for paging,
and hylafax for faxing. Both setups will access the same modem. It
seems that one or the other programs is regularily locking the modem
and won't allow the other access to the modem. For example the modem
is set on /dev/ttyS1. For qpage to access the device we've set the
access to crwxrwxrwx, otherwise it errors out. After a couple minutes
the permissions revert to crw------- with uucp as the owner, retaining
the admit group which we've setup for it. I need to prevent whatevers
reverting the permissions. A lock file is likewise dropped
into /var/spool/qpage. I'm aware that lockfiles are necessary to
prevent device contention, but in this case there doesn't seem to be
anything accessing the device.
I'd appreciate any assistance.
Thanks,
Brian Seppanen
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From: "Boisy G. Pitre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VMWare (Windows on Linux)?
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:26:07 -0500
A follow-up question to my post on VMWare running Windows 98 under Linux:
The one application that concerns me is DirectCD from Adaptec, as well as
Easy CD creator. I use a HP 8100 CD Writer on my PC, and am wondering if
VMWare will allow Windows 98 to access this unit as a burner, and also if
DirectCD will work as well.
Any comments would be appreciated.
--
Boisy G. Pitre
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pager: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Young4ert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem in downloading using NetScape 4.6.1
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 14:03:37 -0400
Whenever downloading using netscape is interrupted by modem disconnection,
the NetScape 4.6.1 does not perform a "reget" to continue the download,
instead it does the "get" command to freshly download the file. This is
kind of a nuissance if one has to download a big 20MB using a 56K modem.
Does NetScape 4.6.1 provide a setup to change the "get" to a "reget"
command?
AFAIK, IE5 does support a "reget" command.
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From: "Olivier Pidoux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux and Windows NT 4.0 network
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 13:41:51 -0400
I need help !!!!!!!!!!!
How can I acces my NT network from linux???
Thanks
Olivier Pidoux
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Brand recommendation?
Date: 03 Aug 1999 09:30:16 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Collene Pearce) writes:
> I'm going to upgrade my old machine and put
> Linux on it. Now, the question is -- do I have
> to be careful about the processor I choose? What
> about other hardware?
>
> Also, can any one recommend their favorite "brand"
> of linux? Is one better than another and if so,
my favorite "brand" is the plain white box you get at a small computer
shop. go down to your local <ethnic> neighborhood, and talk to the
builder of the system. tell them you want linux but are concerned
about compatibility. they may even have linux experience! get a
parts list. check for support against, e.g., redhat's hardware
compatibility list. go back, adjust parts as needed.
> why?
because
*) they will work with you
*) they build to your specifications
*) special orders not a problem - you can call out specific parts
*) mostly generic parts without linux isssues
*) convenient for warrentee repair/upgrade
*) supports the local economy
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johan kullstam
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MK)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: helping the Third World
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 14:46:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 3 Aug 1999 01:02:04 GMT, "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I must say that at least here in the U.S., there are plenty of people
>on the left (and elsewhere on the political spectrum) doing exactly
>that: running free medical and legal clinics, crisis pregnancy
>centers, job training programs, etc., often on their own dime and with
>no help from - in fact, sometimes opposed by - the better funded and
>organized political "charities" and "causes."
I have great deal of respect for everybody who does so on their
own.
However, the problem with the left is that what they advocate
is that A's will work for B's like leftists see it, and obviously
leftists will be in charge.
Marcin Krol
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you cease believing in it - VALIS, Philip K. Dick
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From: "J. David Peet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine,alt.os.linux
Subject: Win4Lin (was Re: WABI)
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 10:30:15 -0700
(We may want to take this thread out of comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine)
Lee Allen wrote:
> >Win4Lin's principal display mechanism is X-Windows.
> >[......] running multiple simultaneous Windows sessions possible.
> >[....]
>
> If we set it up as described above, are the various users' Windows
> applications isolated from each other -- that is, if one Windows
> crashes, are the others affected?
Yes. Each user has their own vitual PC, and their own location
in the Linux filesystem for their files, (Usually in the directory
$HOME/win). In the normal setup, if there is a problem with Windows
the damage is limited to only the one user's space. And the files
used under Windows are really LInux files, so all the normal
file access permissions apply, so you can really make things
read-only or unreadable to protect any files you want to share.
-Thanks
-David Peet
For more info about Win4Lin check out these pages:
www.trelos.com
www.lainet.com/~peet/Merge/faq.html
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From: Uwe Bonnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VMWare (Windows on Linux)?
Date: 3 Aug 1999 16:42:35 GMT
Boisy G. Pitre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: A follow-up question to my post on VMWare running Windows 98 under Linux:
: The one application that concerns me is DirectCD from Adaptec, as well as
: Easy CD creator. I use a HP 8100 CD Writer on my PC, and am wondering if
: VMWare will allow Windows 98 to access this unit as a burner, and also if
: DirectCD will work as well.
No SCSI emulation in VMWare yet...
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From: Lee Graba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Massive video flickering with Mandrake 6.0
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 09:21:19 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just installed Mandrake 6.0, and under both KDE and Gnome, I get
massive flickering whenever I do just about anything, such as typing,
using the mouse, etc. It looks like all windows are being drawn about 1
inch to the right of the actual window for a brief instant, and then
being drawn in the correct place. I previously had Redhat 5.1 and KDE
1.1 installed on the system, and did not have this problem. I
speculated that the XF86Config file was the culprit, but I had saved the
previous one and was able to use it, but this did not solve the problem.
I am using a S3 Trio64-based video card. My system is a Pentium Pro 150
Mhz, 64 Mb of RAM.
Has anyone else had this problem?
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Lee Graba
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From: "Sid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Partition Managers.
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:32:52 +0530
Hello ,
I wanted to know the best partition manager available . I know you might say
"Partition Magic 4 !" but it costs $$$ . I want to know about
freeware/shareware partition managers which do not destroy my partitions .
I've found one ( Ranish Partition Manager : http://come.to/ranish ) but it
is in beta and is a bit confusing. I've heard that Caldera has one partition
manager . Can I use that on Redhat Linux 6.0 ??
Any useful link will be appreciated.
Siddharth S
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