Linux-Misc Digest #334, Volume #21 Sun, 8 Aug 99 19:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: Media key for staroffice 5.0 (Bob Martin)
Re: Vanishing Netscape?? (Justin B Willoughby)
'Authentication failed' error from startx (David Young)
Registration # ("Ron Tucker")
Re: Have you heard? (Robin Becker)
Re: Vanishing Netscape?? (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: C structure size inconsitency (Floyd Davidson)
Re: redhat vs suse ("Nevyn")
Re: /etc/bashrc file (David Remash)
Beginner's problem, continued ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Timeout expired while waiting for the PPP interface to come up! (ORRIN)
Re: Can't INSMOD the BTTV driver in 2.2.5 !!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
DVD Movies (Christopher Michael Collins)
Re: Have you heard? (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: guaranteed annual income ("A.T.Z.")
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Media key for staroffice 5.0
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 21:28:09 +0000
John Badarte wrote:
>
> I am new to Linux.
>
> I installed suse 6.1 and was unable to install staroffice 5 because it kept
> asking me for some media key #.
>
> I gave up and then installed caldera 2.2. When i tried installing
> startofffice, it "again" asked for the media key #.
>
> Can someone help me? How and where do i get this media key #?
> Regards john
go to the staroffice web site, register the product, they will give you
a registration key.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
Subject: Re: Vanishing Netscape??
Date: 8 Aug 1999 21:44:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
"Gordon D. Anderson" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> This one just now happened and this is still a new installation
> for me so I am confused. Netscape was running fine. I had a
> remote web page on the screen and had roamed around in it a little,
> then I clicked on something on that page and Netscape was completely
> gone. Wiped out! Vanished! Poof!
Netscape probably crashed. You can see if there is still a lock file which
would be ~/.netscape/lock
If you do you will want to delete it before you start up Netscape again or
you won't be able to save bookmarks and such.
Netscape does this once in a great while for me, don't know what.
- Justin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Young)
Subject: 'Authentication failed' error from startx
Date: 8 Aug 1999 21:31:23 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've just upgraded RedHat 5.2 to 6.0. I can start X as root with
'startx', however, I cannot start if I am logged in as any other
user. What gives? I've been fiddling with X authentication all morning
trying to figure this out, but without any luck. Man pages I've already
read top to bottom without their being any use are Xserver(1), xauth(1),
and mkxauth(1).
Dave
--
``I always thought that anybody who told me I couldn't live in the
past was trying to get me to forget something that if I remembered
it would get them in serious trouble.'' --Utah Philips
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From: "Ron Tucker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Registration #
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 15:28:02 -0400
This may not be the most appropriate question to post in these n.g.'s but
here goes.
I recently installed rh 6.0 and in the interim have misplaced the cd
wrapper that contained the application cd. As some of you already know
there is a registration # needed to install some of the sw. Any ideas of
how to acquire this registration #?
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From: Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Have you heard?
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 19:27:06 +0100
If no one proves they hacked in; this is not proof that no one did (or
could). M$ is heading for a big fall if it announces that it has any
kind of hacker proof system.
--
Robin Becker
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Vanishing Netscape??
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 21:50:21 GMT
In article <E0lr3.2569$RD5.56816@typ11>, Gordon D. Anderson wrote:
>This one just now happened and this is still a new installation
>for me so I am confused. Netscape was running fine. I had a
>remote web page on the screen and had roamed around in it a little,
>then I clicked on something on that page and Netscape was completely
>gone. Wiped out! Vanished! Poof!
I've heard netscape does this especially when visiting adult sites 8)
Okay, no, welcome to the wonderful world of software and no reason
to be concerned. It is a bug and it happens. 4.61 is better, although
even older versions did not crash and burn all the time. Even with
all that Java and Javascript crap disabled.
You might still have a netscape process hanging around (ps a) and
if so kill it using kill -9.
[...]
Ta',
Juergen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Subject: Re: C structure size inconsitency
Date: 8 Aug 1999 21:09:14 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Konrad Hambrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> struct Test2 {
> time_t X0;
> char X1;
> char X2;
> char X3;
> char X4;
> char X5;
> char X6;
> } __attribute__((packed)) T2;
>
>This should assure the compiler ignores optomized alignment
>and the members are packed head-to-tail in the three struct's.
But it does not necessarily insure that it matches whatever
alignment might be found on other platforms, and hence does not
solve his portability problem. It might make for a much smaller
file if a large number of such structures are written to a disk
file. But the file will be no more portable across platforms
than the larger version not using packed structs.
It has the additional disadvantage of being non-Standard code
which will compile only on a specific platform using a specific
family of compilers.
Floyd
--
Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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From: "Nevyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: redhat vs suse
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 22:45:08 +0100
i would have said red hat a while ago, but the diffrence in cost for the
official red hat/suse ....over here its like £30 for suse and £80 for red
hat, besides, apart from a few files being diffently named/in diffrent
places, there isnt THAT much diffence between the 2, except suse is cheeper
and comes with ALOT more software.....oh yeah and the cd case is way cooler
for suse d:o)
p.s.......does anyone know of a list of the app on the suse CD's, like what
they do, where they r (which directory of which cd etc).....i dont know half
of the apps and might want them if i did
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From: David Remash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: /etc/bashrc file
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 14:49:13 -0700
Jose wrote:
>
> I know that the /etc/bashrc file can be used if the for "system wide"
> initializing before the person logs into the the system, but is there
> a file I can use for when the person logs out? I don't want to use
> the files that are in the person's home directory.
>
> Thanks for any advice
>
> Jose
hi jose,
try .bash_logout
david
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Beginner's problem, continued
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 22:12:45 GMT
Thank you all for the prompt reply you have given.
I think I need a Hot-Key combination to stop Linux going directly
into X window, then I can do the changes in "inittab". Is there a
hot-key? while the configuration error, I cann't see anything
when the X window starts. It seems Ctrl-C doesn't work. and
ctrl-alt-del close Linux totally.
I have installed redhat in a seperate boot partition, so lilo doesn't
show the selection menu.
thank you again
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ORRIN)
Subject: Re: Timeout expired while waiting for the PPP interface to come up!
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 21:55:36 GMT
On Sun, 8 Aug 1999 21:54:13 +0200, "RT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hey,
>
>I hope someone will help me for solving the next problem:
>under Red Hat Linux 6.0 I try to get a connection with the Internet (ISP
>Skynet Belgium) using the program kppp.
>I think that my configuration is OK; but there is a problem when pppd
>starts:
>By "Logging on to Network" when the kppp program try to start pppd "Starting
>pppd...."
>the following message appears:
>timeout expired while waiting for the PPPinterface to come up (but dmesg |
>less) learns me that the ppp0 interface is OK.
>The content of the log file PPP-logfile is:
>
>Aug 8 20:01:26 localhost pppd[695]: pppd 2.3.7 started by root, uid 0
>Aug 8 20:01:26 localhost pppd[695]: Using interface ppp0
>Aug 8 20:01:26 localhost pppd[695]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
>Aug 8 20:01:56 localhost pppd[695]: Terminating on signal 15.
>Aug 8 20:02:02 localhost pppd[695]: Connection terminated.
>Aug 8 20:02:02 localhost pppd[695]: Connect time 0.6 minutes.
>Aug 8 20:02:02 localhost pppd[695]: Exit.
>
>So, I think that the problem is: Terminating on signal 15. But , really, I
>don't know what I have to do for resolving this problem
I have the same problem with SuSE 6.1... I hope someone finds the
answer to this one!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can't INSMOD the BTTV driver in 2.2.5 !!!
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 04:32:26 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
> Just recently bought a new K6 running 2.2.5 build. I DL'd the bttv
>driver code, and the make seemed to go just fine. However, when I "make
>ins" from the top level the MAKEDEV goes just fine, but the ./update
>chokes with the following message;
>
># ./update
>insmod videodev
>./videodev.0: unresolved symbol init_bttv_cards
>./videodev.o: unresolved symbol i2c_tuner_init
>#
>
>I have tried every modification I could think of to the make files,
>including some wild-ass guesses. Has anyone gotten an bt878 card (a newer
>WinTV card) to work in 2.2.5 ??
>
> Any advice or help you can lend is much appreciated.
>
>Kind Regards,
> Warren Crossfield
I had problems with running update from a downloaded and compiled
BTTV, don't remember which version, but, what I ended up doing was compiling
as module the bttv in the kernel source tree, then copying the object files
that were created,(bttv.o, i2c.o, msp3400.0, tuner.o, videodev.o) to the
directory with the update script, and using those object files with the
MAKEDEV and update script, and then it worked! Give it a try.
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Subject: DVD Movies
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Michael Collins)
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 22:09:00 GMT
I have been asked to install Linux on a friends
Laptop, A compaq presario. She watches movies
with it's DVD player and M$ O/S.
When will applications be available for Linux that
will allow the viewing of DVD movies?
--Chris
--
--Chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Have you heard?
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 22:14:32 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robin Becker wrote:
>If no one proves they hacked in; this is not proof that no one did (or
>could). M$ is heading for a big fall if it announces that it has any
>kind of hacker proof system.
... Jojo2000
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From: "A.T.Z." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: guaranteed annual income
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 00:54:10 +0200
Richard Kulisz schreef:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, A.T.Z. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Richard Kulisz schreef:
> >> If people are dying in a tidal wave, are you gonna complain they didn't
> >> "do a single thing to get" to higher ground?
> >
> >You know much better then to place this comment.
>
> Do I? Unemployment is just as much a force of nature as a tidal wave; it
> is inescapable, crushing and inhuman. You complain about people who "don't
> do all they can" to escape their situation. *BULLSHIT*!
Your bullshit.
> There is a maximum number of goods most people will consume, there is a
> plateau to the total amount of goods consumed by society and this fact
> should be obvious; most people will be satisfied with adequate food,
> shelter, clothing for themselves and their family. But Consumerism is
> predicated on society wanting and consuming an infinite amount of goods.
>
> So the facts are that
> 1) the total amount of goods consumed by society is fixed,
> has plateaued (if you ignore developing nations).
> 2) productivity is still rising, and will continue to rise
> forever.
>
> What this means is that in order to /produce/ this total amount of
> goods consumed by the whole of society, there is less and less need
> for labour. What it *should* mean is that everyone works less and
> keeps the same standard of living but what it *actually* means is
> that some portion of the population becomes unemployed. And because
> productivity will rise forever, this segment of the population will
> rise as a proportion of the whole population.
>
> Unemployment is real and it is inescapable. Most people realize that
> from their own personal experience. The only option available to
> people is to fight against each other for the shrinking number of
> jobs available, and that's what you want them to do; to become anti-
> social monsters who "do all they can" to secure a job.
It can. Do as much as you can and you will find a job. Shrinking number HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA HA you don't know what you are talking about. Here in The Netherlands there
a ENOUGH jobs and ENOUGH unemployed.
> >> And this "everything", does it involve organ selling, pushing drugs, or
> >> prostitution?
> >
> >Do I really have to spell it out for you. Alright, someone should do everything
> >but may not do anything which is against the law.
>
> Whoring out for your boss is not against the law. Neither is selling your
> body for medical research in the USA; I saw a news article where a woman
> was proud of the "ingenious" ways she got health coverage, it was fucking
> horrifying!!
OKE not against the law and not immoral.
> >> And you determine this how? "Hmmm, I don't think I like your face ..."
> >
> >No by clear regulation a person must write at least x (I think it is 10, but
> >I'm not sure) letters in one month. Perhaps you don't like this.
>
> Perhaps I think it's futile, braindead and demeaning. Perhaps I think
> unemployed people should be encouraged to better themselves instead of
> forcing them to *BEG* and *GROVEL*!
Let them try to find a job. Get education. Whatever as long as they do try. Jobs
don't come to you, you will have to go out and FIND ONE.
> It's obvious from your attitude that you think being unemployed makes
> someone Total Scum, and you don't think unemployed people catch on
> to your attitude?
No such thing. You are bringing unemployed into an underdog position, and you feel
good.
> >> So your proposed solution is to beat people. If they aren't sufficiently
> >> obsequious then you whip them until they are.
> >
> >HUH
>
> "Social security" in capitalist nations is just a system to prevent
> the poor from dying and to force them into the labour pool so they
> can push down workers' wages.
As they should.
> You complain about people who "don't get a real job" and instead of
> trying to help them better themselves so they *can* get one, your
> proposal amounts to starving them out. You're just a modern-day
> slave-master.
FOOL. They can get FREEEEEE education. All the help they need FREEEEE. If they don't
want to they get less money. When are you going to understand this.
> >> Helping people get jobs is possible, but it takes a lot of money; a
> >> hell of a lot more money than the pittance "welfare" gives people.
> >> So on the one hand, you're complaining about people being on welfare
> >> but the only reason they're on welfare is because you're a selfish
> >> stingy rat bastard.
> >
> >You can help by not giving to much money if they're unemployed. This causes
>
> You think people *want* to remain unemployed?
Some do.
> You scorn them and tell
> them they should be ashamed of themselves and now you're going to treat
> them like *ANIMALS* who can't think for themselves?! You evil-minded
> selfish turd!
Wrong wrong wrong wrong. You just don't get it do you?? They get money (enough to
live) they can get free education, all the help they need. Counseling whatever.
> >some people to stop searching for a job. If you are unemployed you can get
> >education and the government reduces the cost if you hire people who are
> >unemployed for more then one year.
>
> The starving have hospitals and prisons so your conscience is clean, is
> that your position? You don't seem to be getting my point you stingy rat
> bastard; *it* *isn't* *enough*! Besides, why the fuck should business get
> the tax breaks?!
>
> >What is inhuman and immoral if you require people who have good health and are
>
> The total lack of any human dignity. The scorn and shame you heap on them.
> Your treating unemployed people like *animals* who can't think for themselves;
> who can't be given too much food lest they become fat and lazy. Your treating
> all of the bloody population as amounting to nothing more than robots whose
> value is measured in their Job instead of as human beings.
See above.
> >unemployed to do everything to get a job. Well, NOTHING. If they don't want to
>
> Like I said, you're an inhuman immoral creature with no empathy whatsoever
> for the plight of your fellows.
In your opinion.
> >find a job then it is their own choiche and I think they shouldn't get more
> >money from the government then the minimum required to stay alive. And perhaps
> >they shouldn't get money at all.
>
> You should've conceded the point and just admitted "Yes, I am selfish scum."
NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER Cause it's not true.
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