Linux-Misc Digest #504, Volume #21               Sun, 22 Aug 99 11:13:11 EDT

Contents:
  Re: How to I remove Lilo ("Ryan T. Rhea")
  Re: Anyone using Visual PPP 2.3 ??? (Michael McConnell)
  Re: /usr/sbin/in.identd ("Jeff Grossman")
  Re: help: two bootup issues ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Which distribution to use? (Julian Bordas)
  Re: test (Gergo Barany)
  Koffice needs libkdeutil.so.2 etc. - where do I find it ("Bernd Becker")
  Re: Synchronizing cmos clock with timeserver? ("Steve Cowles")
  Re: What I think of linux. (dh)
  Re: Java security problem in Netscape on Linux. (Craig Stewart)
  Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions) (Isaac)
  Re: HTML Apps: votes needed here! (dkselich)
  Re: Problem in Calling a Perl Script from a Bash Script (Peter Caron)
  WTF is the difference between Linux and FreeBSD??? (Eric Wright)
  Re: WTF is the difference between Linux and FreeBSD??? (Rod Smith)
  Re: Oracle on Linux ("Jill")
  Re: passwd sucks, how do I get around it? (Mathew A. Hennessy)
  Re: 3com ISA cards and linux (See sig for reply)
  Re: Problem in Calling a Perl Script from a Bash Script (Bill Heagy)
  Re: anyone certified? ("Robert F. Scheyder")
  Re: Linux books, Is this a good deal? ("Robert F. Scheyder")

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From: "Ryan T. Rhea" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.help,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: How to I remove Lilo
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 09:44:36 +0000

BD wrote:

> I recently installed linux 5.2 and installed lilo.  Well today I booted
> up my computer and linux partition and everything else (bar my C: drive
> for windoze) was gone.
> So now im stuck with lilo at bootup. How do I delete it?

Despite my previous post, I am usually a kind hearted soul and I
remembered that I hate rude replies to innocent messages.

Run 'fdisk /mbr' from dos/windows to reinstall the master boot record.
This will remove lilo and fix the problem.

Note that if you decide to reinstall linux/lilo again in the future, you
can add your windows partition so that you can just boot into windows from
lilo if you have a problem with linux.

Sincerely,
Ryan T. Rhea
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Michael McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anyone using Visual PPP 2.3 ???
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 09:58:59 +0100

On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, shanks01 wrote:

> I enter all the session info (phone, script, DNS addys, etc) and punch the
> connect button.  Then for some reason it takes nearly 50 seconds before the
> modem starts to dial out.  vppp times the session out as being unsuccessful
> before the dialog really gets established.  I can find no place in the setup
> to change the default timeout, nor can I figure out how to get the modem to
> start dialling earlier in the process.

Sounds like the IRQ is incorrectly set.

For example, my modem card is on COM3/ttyS2, IRQ5. In my startup script I've
had to add: setserial /dev/ttyS2 irq 5

-- Michael "Soruk" McConnell
Eridani Star System  --  The Most Up-to-Date Red Hat Linux CDROMs Available
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    http://www.amush.cx/linux/   Fax: +44-8701-600807
                Eridani: Your PC doesn't need Windows or Gates.


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From: "Jeff Grossman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /usr/sbin/in.identd
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:24:47 -0700

I had the same problem when I first installed Redhat.  You will have to
install the pidentd rpm.  It is on the Redhat CD.

Jeff

--
Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


Kurt V. Hindenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Miwu3.12$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm running stock RH6.0, in /etc/inetd.conf I the following:
> # Authentication
> #
> auth   stream  tcp     nowait    nobody    /usr/sbin/in.identd
in.identd -l -e -
> o
> #
>
> I don't have a /usr/sbin/in.identd
>
> Any ideas?  It's rather odd, since I just installed RH6.0 from scratch.
>    Kurt
>
> PS: I don't have a in.identd anywhere on my system.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: help: two bootup issues
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 06:03:20 -0400

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/22/99 
   at 05:40 PM, Rob Lahaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>I believed it to be related to either an improper setting of your
>internet connection (IP number, gateway, netmask...), or the dns server
>is (temporarily) not working.
>I would recommend: first double check your internet settings with
>linuxconf and next add your hostname to /etc/hosts so that dns is not
>required for resolving your hostname through dns (I suppose your
>host.conf will first check the /etc/hosts file, before doing anything
>else).

>I hope this will help.

There is definitely something wrong with the networking but I've removed
the slow bootup problem. I'm facing some other networking trials now.

Thanks for the confirmation of my suspicions.

F.

===========================================================
      Felmon John Davis         
     [EMAIL PROTECTED]   |  [EMAIL PROTECTED]     
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
     OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack 
===========================================================


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From: Julian Bordas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.dev.newbie
Subject: Re: Which distribution to use?
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 20:56:43 +0000

> If you really want someone to tell you which one to use... I will tell you
> Mandrake.  It is easy to install (Caldera is easier if you are really afraid)
> and is basically just RedHat with some additions for ease of use and hacks for
> tighter security out of the box.  (Note that I will probablly get flamed for
> voicing my opinion on the matter - it is practically a religous topic).
>
> Ryan T. Rhea
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'd agree with Ryan, and install Mandrake, it defaults to KDE ( win 98) took me a
bit over 36 hours on a 56k modem to download. and you can cahnge the windows manae
if you wish

Julian


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gergo Barany)
Subject: Re: test
Date: 9 Aug 1999 12:18:23 GMT

Ron Tucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>test
>

In the Newsgroups: line, you misspelled alt.test.

Gergo

-- 
We're fighting against humanism, we're fighting against liberalism...
we are fighting against all the systems of Satan that are destroying
our nation today...our battle is with Satan himself.
- Jerry Falwell

GU d- s:+ a--- C++>$ UL+++ P>++ L+++ E>++ W+ N++ o? K- w--- !O !M !V
PS+ PE+ Y+ PGP+ t* 5+ X- R>+ tv++ b+>+++ DI+ D+ G>++ e* h! !r !y+

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From: "Bernd Becker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Koffice needs libkdeutil.so.2 etc. - where do I find it
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:50:57 +0200

> Hi,
> I think, I could do with some help over here.
>
> I downloaded KDE 1.1.1 (all rpm's of the basic system including klibs)
plus
> OT 1.44 from www.suse.de/downloads/LinuKS/ and installed it on my SUSE 6.1
> system. I also downloaded koffice (990203-22) from the same site. But when
I
> try to install it, I get a message that the following files are required:
> libkdeutil.so.2
> libkhtml.so.2
> libkio.so.2
> libkom.so.1
> libkparts.so.1
> libkpartssui.so.1
> libpykde.so.1
> libpymico.so.0
>
> I cannot find these files on my system and also don't know where to get
them
> from or in which packet they could be found.
>
> I also downloaded mico.rpm from the same site, but the files are not in
> there either.
> Corba is also looking for the first three files on the list.
>
> Please HELP
>
> Best Regards,
> Bernd Becker
>
>
>



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From: "Steve Cowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Synchronizing cmos clock with timeserver?
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:01:23 GMT

Jeff,

The "net time" command uses nmb/smb services (Samba) as a transport for asking
your linux box to return its current time. I verified this by temporarily
shutting down samba on my linux box. Then, when I issued "net time", I got the
same error message as you. (see below)

Steve Cowles
SWCowles at gte dot net

===========================================
<cut/paste with Samba running>
C:\>net time \\voyager /s /y
Current time at \\voyager is 8/22/99 6:49 AM

The command completed successfully.
C:\>net time \\192.168.9.17 /s /y
Current time at \\192.168.9.17 is 8/22/99 6:49 AM

The command completed successfully.

<cut/paste without samba running>
C:\>net time \\voyager /s /y
System error 53 has occurred.

The network path was not found.
C:\>
C:\>net time \\192.168.9.17 /s /y
System error 53 has occurred.

The network path was not found.
C:\>

Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> It is not letting me do it.  I am putting net time \\ip address of linux box
> /s /y and it comes back with an error saying it can't find the machine.
>
> Jeff
>
> --
> Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>
> Cowles, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I also use rdate to set my Linux box time using cron. On my Windows
> machines
> > I use the following command to set their time against the Linux box. The
> > "net" command comes with every version of Windows I'm aware of.
> >
> > net time \\linuxbox /s /y
> >
> >
> > Steve Cowles
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >> /usr/bin/rdate -s wrzx03.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de
> > >
> > > I'm using RedHat 5.1 on a server right now, and wonder how, if I run
> > > this 'rdate' command when the server dials into its ISP to grab mail,
> > > can I get the Windoze boxes on the network to set their time from the
> > > Linux server?
> > >
> > > In the past, I've used a Windoze utility called D4 but it's overkill
> > > for what I need (I think).
> > >
> > > Can I get Linux to broadcast the time on an SNTP port or something?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



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From: dh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:03:57 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Donn Miller wrote:

> David Cummings wrote:
>
> > was the Tandy 1000 on which I learned DOS and QBASIC. Windows 3.1 on a custom made
> > 25mhz IBM compatible. Had that for 3-4 yrs and ran more than I should have. Now I
>
> That's nothing...  I had a 386/sx 16 8 megs ram which I used as
> my main computer from 1991 - 1997.  I ran FreeBSD 2.0.5 - 2.1.7,
> Linux, and Windows 3.1 on it.  I never really owned a 486... I
> just went straight from the 386 to a Pentium 90.  So it was a
> pretty huge leap.  I hated that 386, even as far back as 1993,
> because it wouldn't run sh*t.  But, I kept hesitating to
> upgrade...
>
> Donn

In how many years will people say "<futurecomputername>? That's *nothing*. I used an
ancient Windows system crawling along with a crappy 400MHz Intel processor and a tiny
128 megs of RAM. It crashed every five minutes, you could hardly get anything done. It
still used floppies and CDs, for chrissakes! It wouldn't know an optical fibre if you
shoved it up its serial port - we had to use phone lines! The display was 1024*768 - 
big
bulky things, the monitors,  not this new flash flatscreen stuff. You kids today, don't
know how good you've got it..."

Dafydd Harries


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From: Craig Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Java security problem in Netscape on Linux.
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 07:17:46 -0500

Have you tried catching the exception and within the catch, granting the
UniversalConnect privilege?  This seems like the easiest way around this.
However, I don't know what would happen in Windows then if the user refused
it, but it is something you might want to check out.

Good luck,
Craig

G. Georgiev" wrote:

>         Hi,
>
>         I want to open a socket connection from a running web page in
> Netscape and I did copy with minor changes the following script from the
> netscape development guide to my page:
>
>       function socketl(host,port,sendstr) {
>
>   netscape.security.PrivilegeManager.enablePrivilege('UniversalConnect');
>         var sock = new java.net.Socket (host, port);
>         dock = new java.io.DataOutputStream(sock.getOutputStream());
>         dock.writeBytes(sendstr);
>         var dis = new java.io.DataInputStream(sock.getInputStream());
>         while((line = dis.readLine()) != null) {
>                 res += line;
>                 res += java.lang.System.getProperty("line.separator");
>               }
>                               dis.close();
>         dis.close();
>         dock.close();
>         sock.close();
>         return line;
>       }
>
>         When I run it in a netscape from a Windown computer it asks me the
> first time if I want to gran the 'UniversalConnect' priviledge, I give him
> this priv. and it goes quite happy after.
>
>         The problem is when i try to run it in Netscape (4.51) on Linux -
> it does never ask me for the priviledge and it prints on the javascript
> console:
>    JavaScript Error: uncaught Java exception
>    netscape/security/ForbiddenTargetException ("User didn't grant the
>    UniversalConnect privilege.")
>
>         So how to grant him this priviledge if it does never ask it?
>
>                 Thanks, George.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Isaac)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions)
Date: 22 Aug 1999 12:44:09 GMT

On 20 Aug 1999 11:02:29 -0500, Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>It would be even better if all GPL'd libraries just included this
>exception in the first place.  Obviously the people who put it
>there wanted to promote the widest possible use of their free code
>as opposed to whatever it is the rest of the FSF is thinking.  Besides,

I suspect that what they really want is the widest possible use
for guile.  The exception encourages people to embed guile into
propietary apps as the scripting language.
>in the case of dynamic linking or 'user-does-the-link' it is not
>at all clear there there is any possible copyright claim on the
>distributed components that don't contain the covered work anyway.

I agree, but the FSF of course does not (and really cannot).  Hence they 
would say that the exception has a purpose.

Isaac

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From: dkselich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: HTML Apps: votes needed here!
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 06:31:20 -0700

Sounds like you put together some fancy web pages. Don't forget to check
them out on lynx, the text based WWW browser, if you want to ensure that
the information on the site is accessable to all. Text based web browser
are popular because they are fast.

Dennis

> I'm new to Linux, and trying hard to leave Windows behind for good. As part
> of my business I occasionally write web sites (www.heritagebarns.com, for
> example).

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From: Peter Caron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem in Calling a Perl Script from a Bash Script
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 15:44:53 +0200

Try this instead:


my ($message)=@ARGV;

Then call $message as you would normally e.g.

print "My parameter is $message";

sky wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I don't know if this is the right group, but probably someone knows...
>
> I wan't to call a perl function I wrote out of a bash script. So I
> call it like this inside my bash script
>
> perl myfunc.pl "This is a Parameter I like to pass"
>
> Inside of myfunc.pl I take the Parameter out of this:
> $message = @ARGV[1];
>
> The String doesn't make it to the function, does anybody know why?
> Actually an Empty Parameter is passed.
>
> Calling it directly from my telnet prompt the Parameter reaches the
> Function.
>
> Could somebody please help me?
>
> Thanks alot!
>
> Please answer to (or CC: to) [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Wright)
Subject: WTF is the difference between Linux and FreeBSD???
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:42:19 GMT

I ordered the mega-pack of Linux flavors from www.linuxmall.com last
week.  I saw in the pack description that FreeBSD 3.2 was
included....but it said that it wasn't actually Linux.

I'm confused.  It's a unix-type OS just like Linux, right?  Granted it
ISN'T Linux....it wasn't part of Linus' project years back....but it's
technically almost like Linux, right?

I've tried finding the answers on the 'net but all I found were pages
that said there was a certain animousity betwenn Linux groups and
FreeBSD groups (another WTF).  I'm lost here.

Can someone explain to me (in layman's terms, so a relative newbie can
understand).

What are the strengths and weaknesses of FreeBSD compared to Linux
(any flavor of Linux)?

I'm sure to get some biased opinions but after all, this is a Linux NG
:o)

Ron
aka NipponDSM

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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: WTF is the difference between Linux and FreeBSD???
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 14:42:15 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Wright) writes:
> I ordered the mega-pack of Linux flavors from www.linuxmall.com last
> week.  I saw in the pack description that FreeBSD 3.2 was
> included....but it said that it wasn't actually Linux.
> 
> I'm confused.  It's a unix-type OS just like Linux, right?  Granted it
> ISN'T Linux....it wasn't part of Linus' project years back....but it's
> technically almost like Linux, right?

Yes, but that's sort of like saying that Del Monte ketchup is pretty much
like Heinz ketchup, so why not call "Del Monte" "Heinz"?  (This last bit
being unstated but implied by your question.)  They're two different
"flavors" with two different heritages.  They're very similar, have many
of the same ingredients, and are interchangeable for many purposes, but
they've got different organizations behind them and they differ in a lot
of details.

> I've tried finding the answers on the 'net but all I found were pages
> that said there was a certain animousity betwenn Linux groups and
> FreeBSD groups (another WTF).  I'm lost here.

IMHO, "animosity" is too strong a term, at least for 90%+ of users of both
systems.  "Rivalry" is better.  There's no good, rational, logical reason
for this, any more than there's a good, rational, logical reason for the
rivalry between Heinz and Del Monte purchasers (or Ford and Chevy, or
Compaq and Dell, or whatever).  The psychological reasons no doubt have to
do with group tribal instincts, personal insecurities, etc.

> Can someone explain to me (in layman's terms, so a relative newbie can
> understand).
> 
> What are the strengths and weaknesses of FreeBSD compared to Linux
> (any flavor of Linux)?

First, some history: FreeBSD is derived from "real" UNIX, but in a
piecemeal replacement sort of fashion.  Piece after piece of "real" UNIX
code (that is, stuff from AT&T) was replaced over the years, until there
was nothing from AT&T left.  At that point, the software became free
software (this was before the term "open source" came into use), and has
been distributed as such.

Linux, OTOH, started as a project to completely re-implement UNIX "from
scratch."  (Well, actually, it started with much less lofty goals, but
quickly evolved into a re-implementation project.)  Linux was free
software to begin with, and had the potential to implement things more
differently from UNIX than did FreeBSD because Linux didn't start with a
UNIX base.  I don't know enough about the architectures of the various
systems to know how much Linux does deviate from traditional UNIX
internals.  Certainly Linux looks like a standard UNIX from the user's
point of view, and from the point of view of most programs (Linux is POSIX
compliant, for instance, POSIX being a standard for source code to help
develop cross-platform applications).

Both Linux and FreeBSD use many of the same utilities, applications, and
so on.  For instance, both use XFree86 for windowing systems; WINE
compiles on both for running Windows programs; etc.  So in operation,
Linux and FreeBSD can look pretty similar to one another.  In fact, you
could probably use a system for a while and not know which it is if you
weren't looking for that information.

In general, Linux has more hardware support and more support from
commercial software vendors.  A couple of years ago, the consensus was
that FreeBSD was a tad more stable (say, 9.9 on a scale from 1-10, vs. 9.7
for Linux and 6.0 for Windows).  I don't know if that's still true.  Linux
development tends to proceed more quickly than does FreeBSD's.  The Linux
market is also more fragmented than the FreeBSD market (there are dozens
of Linux distributions but only one FreeBSD distribution [though there are
other BSD variants, like NetBSD]).

IMHO, in 70-90% of situations, either OS would serve equally well (or
poorly; they've got similar weaknesses, as well as strengths).  Most
newbies are probably slightly better served by Linux because it's more
popular, and hence has more documentation in the form of books, newsgroup
traffic, web sites, etc.  (These things all exist for FreeBSD too,
though, just not as copiously.)  Some people may need a particular
application that's available for one OS but not the other (mostly
commercial stuff) -- but each OS can execute the others' binaries (this is
more common among FreeBSD folks who want to run commercial Linux software
like WordPerfect).  Occasionally hardware will dictate the use of one OS
over another.  Somebody experienced with a particular flavor of UNIX may
prefer one over the other because of similarities to the already-known
UNIX.

-- 
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

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From: "Jill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oracle on Linux
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:40:20 -0700

Unless you're planning on a mega-server with a huge SGA, the default
installation is fine, and you don't need to mess with this.  I have 8.0.5
running on a Dell P90 with 48MB of RAM, and it runs just fine with a default
installation of RedHat 5.2.   In fact, I am amazed at how well the two play
together.   I mostly use it for trying stuff out that I can't do at work on
7.3, and studying for the OCP.  I found the Oracle installation docs
useless, but found the attached URL.  I followed the instructions carefully,
and it worked the first time.  I believe he has a doc on RH 6.0.   If you
have a choice in versions, use RH 5.2

http://jordan.fortwayne.com/oracle/oralinux.html


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <7pnvdl$m0l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In article <PeKv3.7033$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  Doug O'Leary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi;
>>
>> I've downloaded Oracle 8.05 for Linux and am looking through
>> the install docs.  One of the things it suggests is up'ing the
>> shared memory max, shared memory identifiers, etc.  My familiarity
>> with the vendors' *nixes is obviously much better than Linux,
>> since I have absolutely no clue how to check those in my linux
>> kernel much less set them.
>>
>> Any tips on how to check/set "standard" kerenl parameters would be
>> greatly appreciated
>
>You might not need the change, depends on your system--if you are
>using a new kernel. Also the discussion panel contains a lot
>info (--http://technet.oracle.com)
>
>Hope it helps.
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mathew A. Hennessy)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: passwd sucks, how do I get around it?
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 14:49:33 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jeff Greer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Thanks,
>
>I can change passwords to what I want now, but startx does not
>work for other users.  X starts up fine with root, but it dies on
>other users.

        Check the permissions on the X binaries, as well as the
user directories (they need to write to their own directories) nad
disk quotas on the users (they need to be able to write to their
directory).  And make sure there's enough space on the /tmp
filesystem.
        If you're stil lhaving trouble, log the output of startx
and post it.

Cheers,
- Matt
-- 
"The day that Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day that they 
start making vacuum cleaners."
- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Fool! There is nothing Perl cannot do! NOTHING!" -Bastich

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at.linux,aus.computers.linux,be.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
From: See sig for reply <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3com ISA cards and linux
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 13:21:05 GMT

X-No-Archive: yes

On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Kalkas wrote:

> I have been seriously thinking to use Linux and stop using Windows 98. I am
> fascinated by Linux's stability and security.

I agree.

> However, it seems that it is not possible for me to use Linux, since I use
> cable modem with a 3com ISA card. More precisely, I use 3com EtherLink III
> ISA (3C509/3C509b) network interface card, and there are no drivers which
> will support my card in Linux.

Ooops?
One of my Linux boxes does use a 3C509. Had no problems to get it running.
Even the Linux which included kernel 2.0.33 supported it.

Cheers,
        Detlef.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Heagy)
Subject: Re: Problem in Calling a Perl Script from a Bash Script
Date: 22 Aug 1999 14:50:20 GMT
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sky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I don't know if this is the right group, but probably someone knows...
>
>I wan't to call a perl function I wrote out of a bash script. So I
>call it like this inside my bash script
>
>perl myfunc.pl "This is a Parameter I like to pass"
>
>Inside of myfunc.pl I take the Parameter out of this:
>$message = @ARGV[1];
            ^     ^
Shouldn't that be "$ARGV[0]" ?

>
>The String doesn't make it to the function, does anybody know why?
>Actually an Empty Parameter is passed.
>
>Calling it directly from my telnet prompt the Parameter reaches the
>Function.
>
>Could somebody please help me?
>
>Thanks alot!
>
>Please answer to (or CC: to) [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: "Robert F. Scheyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: anyone certified?
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:56:45 -0400

Hi,

Agreed!

 MS runs a tread-mill certification program; it's constant
shelling-out-money to keep certification.  You have 6-months after the
release of a product update to take the certification exam, otherwise, you
loose your silver wings and MS diploma.  Cash cow for MS!

Linux certification _is_ distasteful if it is based upon the same structure
as MS.  But, is not Red Hat heading in this direction?  My personal opinion
only, of course.  Hope I'm wrong!

Tschuss!

Robert Scheyder

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From: "Robert F. Scheyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux books, Is this a good deal?
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:50:55 -0400

Hi,

Got the same offer!  The Lib of Computer and Information Science
 Riverdale, N.J. ) is one of many "topic clubs" operated by a main company.
They also have the Lib of Science, etc.

The scam is that you get a good introductory offer, but are obligated to buy
x-number of books in the coming year, and from their selected title list per
month.  Sometimes the monthly titles are absolute crap.

Anyway, why bother when there is Amazon.com or VarsityBooks.com ?  Do a
search on Linux and get a selection of titles with good summaries of each
book.

On the other topic, SuSE Linux,  they provide a pretty good manual with
their package.  Their web site is also good for documentation.  I run SuSE
6.1 and find the on-line documentation better than any book that may be out
of date pretty quickly.

Comments?  This is only me personal opinion here.

Tschuss!

Robert Scheyder

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