Linux-Misc Digest #559, Volume #21 Fri, 27 Aug 99 13:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Guile 1.3.2 is released (Jim Blandy)
Re: The Microsoft/Linux Conspiracy (Jayan M)
Re: CPU choice ("Barry L. Bond")
Re: Can/should a firewall be used as DHCP server (Peter Buelow)
Re: why not C++? (Timo Tossavainen)
Re: why not C++? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Mandrake 6.0 kernel ("William B. Cattell")
Linux Reading Suggestions ("Dave Kaylor")
kmod ? (-ljl-)
Linux on DECpc 425 Help needed (G. Dimitoglou)
Re: VMware - wow! (steve mcadams)
L'Onda ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
CPU choice (Roland Latour)
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From: Jim Blandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
gnu.announce,gnu.utils.bug,alt.sources.d,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c,comp.lang.lisp,,comp.lang.c
Subject: Guile 1.3.2 is released
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:51:37 -0500
This is release 1.3.2 of Guile, Project GNU's extension language
library. Guile is an interpreter for Scheme, packaged as a library
that you can link into your applications to give them their own
scripting language. Guile will eventually support other languages as
well, giving users of Guile-based applications a choice of languages.
It's been almost a year since the last release, so a lot has
happened. Many bugs have been fixed; the I/O system has been
completely rewritten for portability and performance; we have support
for a CLOS-like object system called GOOPS (to be released
separately); and many other improvements.
The Guile release schedule will be picking up quite a bit starting
with this release. Please report any problems you find, and you'll
have a fixed release in two months or so.
Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks! ==============================================================
The Guile core distribution:
Mikael Djurfeldt contributed core support for GOOPS, a CLOS-like object
system for Guile, a generalized set! syntax, and a new random number
generator.
Greg Badros contributes patches to use the new SMOB interface.
Gary Houston contributed a more efficient and portable implementation of
I/O ports, and hacked on (ice-9 expect).
Michael Livshin implemented Dybvig's Guardians.
Roland Orre contributed list and vector sorting functions.
Russ McManus contributed a command-line argument parser (ice-9 getopt-long).
Ken Raeburn contributed patches to make Guile use `const' in some
appropriate places.
Greg Harvey made sure I didn't lose any patches, and made readline
highlight matching parentheses.
Bug reports and fixes from:
Greg Badros, Etienne Bernard, John Bley, Brad Bowman, Frank Cieslok,
Karl Eichwalder, Mark Elbrecht, Jay Glascoe, Ian Grant, Eric Hanchrow,
Greg Harvey, Dirk Herrmann, Johannes Hjorth, Charbel Jacquin, David
Kaelbling, Lorentey Karoly, Valdis Kletnieks, Brad Knotwell, Michael
Livshin, David Lutterkort, Christian Lynbech, Russ McManus, Eric
Moore, Nicolas Neuss, Thien-Thi Nguyen, James Dean Palmer, Richard
Polton, Ken Raeburn, Mikael Ståldal, Telford Tendys, Jon Trowbridge,
Bernard Urban, Sebastien Villemot, and Jim Wilson
Also, thanks to:
- Craig Brozefsky, for his work on the Guile mailing list web archives
- Pat Eyler, for his continuing work on the Guile web pages
Obtaining Guile ======================================================
The latest official Guile release is available via anonymous FTP from
ftp.gnu.org as /gnu/guile/guile-1.3.tar.gz.
Via the web, that's: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/guile/guile-1.3.tar.gz
For getit, that's: ftp.gnu.org:/gnu/guile/guile-1.3.tar.gz
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Also mirrors the Mailing List Archives.
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From: Jayan M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Microsoft/Linux Conspiracy
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:35:15 GMT
That's more like a nightmare, isn't it..?
Jayan
andychamp wrote:
> whoa, man, you scared me!
> but just maybe, BG being the busy man he is, he might get it all
> backwards and release an open-source version of windows.
> well, a user can dream, can't he?
>
> The Ultimate OS Portal schrieb:
> >
> > http://theultimateos.com/The_Micronux_Conspiracy.htm
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From: "Barry L. Bond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CPU choice
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:36:19 -0400
Check out http://www.redhill.net.au/ih.html and see whether that gives
you a start...
Roland Latour wrote:
> Can anyone point me to a source of comparison of available CPUs,
> on a dollar-per-specInt or dollar-per-flop basis? Is Intel's FP
> performance really that bad in relation to Alpha or Power chips?
>
> Failing that, any comparisons on a buck-per-bogoMips basis? Thanks.
>
> Linux Journal has an article on clustering Intel boxes for
> astronomy (FP-intensive) work. Was that choice a good idea?
> --
> Linux@CDSnet: http://home.cdsnet.net/~rolandl
> "If everybody minded their own business, the world would go
> around a deal faster." -- The Duchess, "Through the Looking Glass"
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From: Peter Buelow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can/should a firewall be used as DHCP server
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:59:29 -0500
"Jorge O. Martinez" wrote:
>
> Hi there Linuxeros!
>
> I have a project (network) that I must finish within the next few days, and
> one of this network's vital components will be a firewall between my
> private network, and an ADSL connection to the web. I got 5 static IP
> addresses from my provider, so I am going to set up 5 different firewalls
> for different 'depts.' so they are invisible to each other. Of course, the
> firewalls will be Linux based.
>
> I would like to use DHCP for the private network side, and I am wondering
> if I can/should use the same box that I will use for the firewall as a DHCP
> server...From what I have read, as many services as possible should be
> disabled for the firewall, but I am wondering if the DHCP server would also
> be a potential security hole...I wonder if I it can even be done as this is
> my first firewalling project!
>
> I'll be using Suse or Mandrake for the firewall...Or any other distro that
> can get the job done! Suggestions are welcome on this issue too!
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorge M.
>
> ------------------ Posted via CNET Linux Help ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
I am not aware of any security risks with BIND 8 (I know or am pretty
sure there are some, but they are not well known) and if you bind the
dhpc server daemon to the NIC that services your private network, then
you shouldn't have a problem. Basically, by binding to just your private
network, it won't listen to requests on the public side and this should
close any or all possible security holes. I am doing this at home on my
cable modem firewall and haven't had any trouble. Just make sure you are
using the latest BIND 8 server. Good Luck.
And just personal pref, SuSE 6.1 or 6.2 are the best. I used to be
slack, but was disappointed with the fact that the new dist (4.0) is not
glibc and there were a few bugs. Anyway, just a point of preference.
--
Peter Buelow - Software Engineer
--
"Finger to spiritual emptiness underlying everything." -- How a C manual
referred to a "pointer to void."
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From: Timo Tossavainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:32:24 +0300
Phil Hunt wrote:
> BTW, has anyone read Stroustrup's paper where he suggests overloading
> the whitespace operator? It's quite an elegant idea, for example
> mathematicians would be able to write:
>
> v = a x + b y + c z;
>
> instead of the usual:
>
> v = a * x + b * y + c * z;
>
I think that the paper was published on April 1st. Draw your own
conclusions...
Timo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:46:12 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Timo Tossavainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Phil Hunt wrote:
>
>> BTW, has anyone read Stroustrup's paper where he suggests overloading
>> the whitespace operator? It's quite an elegant idea, for example
>> mathematicians would be able to write:
>>
>> v = a x + b y + c z;
>>
>> instead of the usual:
>>
>> v = a * x + b * y + c * z;
>>
>
>I think that the paper was published on April 1st. Draw your own
>conclusions...
>
>Timo
>
I believe there is a language that uses space as an operator,
SNOBOL, one of the more interesting artifacts of the Cambrian Explosion
of language design back in the what? 50s, 60s? Don't remember many
details about it though.
--
No statement is wholly true, not even this one.
also: remove "UhUh" and "Spam" to get my real email address -----
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From: "William B. Cattell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mandrake 6.0 kernel
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:26:50 GMT
Ben Ritchie wrote:
>
snip
> I guess my questions are....
>
> (a) Do I just download the full source for the new kernel I want, and
> patch that in future, or is there another way?
>
> (b) What's in the Mandrake 2.2.9 kernel source that stops patch from
> working? Do I need it in future?
>
> Many thanks - feel free to flame away if this is all written down
> somewhere obvious. A URL with the flame would be nice, though :-)
>
> Ben.
Ben - yes, they are written down in the Kernel-upgrade
HOWTO. That HOWTO will tell you all you need to know about
upgrading your kernel. make xconfig *should* work. I'm
pretty sure I used it on a Mandrake 6.0 system I have at
work. I would suggest getting the whole source. It's
always been my preference to compile a kernel and not just
patch it. No real reason other than personal peference.
Bill
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From: "Dave Kaylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Reading Suggestions
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:09:34 -0500
I have installed RH 5.2 in one of my older systems to get a feel for the OS
and would like to know what books may be a good reference. I have extensive
experience in Windows (ducking!) and OS/2 but have not had any Linux (and
very limited Unix) exposure.
Thanks for any help
Dave Kaylor
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kmod ?
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:04:57 GMT
In "/usr/src/linux/Documentation/kmod.txt" says to:
echo "/sbin/modprobe" > /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe
when I do this here is what I get:
lou1: # echo "/sbin/modprobe" > /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe
bash: /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe: No such file or directory
lou1: # ls /proc/
1 148 338 dma loadavg rtc
109 149 339 filesystems locks scsi
11 150 4 fs meminfo self
114 151 88 ide misc slabinfo
128 152 92 interrupts modules stat
142 2 bus ioports mounts swaps
145 3 cmdline kcore net tty
146 336 cpuinfo kmsg partitions uptime
147 337 devices ksyms pci version
I'm running Linux 2.2.5, any and all help will be appreciated.
Thanks.
--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (G. Dimitoglou)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Linux on DECpc 425 Help needed
Date: 27 Aug 1999 15:51:30 GMT
Hi all, I would like to know if anyone has put *any* version of Linux on a DECpc 425.
I have no idea what the BIOS is or what network card it has but I assume that it is
the default one that
Digital used to ship them with (it is definately 10Mb/sec).
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
George
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From: steve mcadams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: athome.users-unix,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: VMware - wow!
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:11:14 -0600
Sorry to butt in and sound like a basher, but can someone explain to me why
this vmware gizmo has two versions, one for Windows and another for Linux?
A true virtual machine operating system would run on the hardware and
Windows, Linux, BeOS, or whatever would run on top of it transparently. Is
this a crude hack, or what is going on?
> In article <B3Ps3.2187$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "me" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "VMware products provide developers and users with the ability to:
> >
> > Run multiple operating systems concurrently on a single PC--without
> > repartitioning or rebooting.
> > Interoperate among each of these operating systems.
> > Isolate and protect each operating environment, and the applications
> and
> > data that are running in it.
> > Encapsulate and manipulate each operating environment, and have the
> > availability to roll back and restart, or move an environment among
> > differently configured machines. "
> >
> > www.vmware.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: L'Onda
Date: 27 Aug 1999 15:17:48 GMT
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From: Roland Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CPU choice
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:06:38 -0700
Can anyone point me to a source of comparison of available CPUs,
on a dollar-per-specInt or dollar-per-flop basis? Is Intel's FP
performance really that bad in relation to Alpha or Power chips?
Failing that, any comparisons on a buck-per-bogoMips basis? Thanks.
Linux Journal has an article on clustering Intel boxes for
astronomy (FP-intensive) work. Was that choice a good idea?
--
Linux@CDSnet: http://home.cdsnet.net/~rolandl
"If everybody minded their own business, the world would go
around a deal faster." -- The Duchess, "Through the Looking Glass"
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