Linux-Misc Digest #665, Volume #21 Sat, 4 Sep 99 02:13:15 EDT
Contents:
Re: Netscape font rendition: Linux vs Windows (AeonFlux®)
Re: Realplayer G2 for RH6.0 (Carl Fink)
Re: I WANT TO DITCH WINDOZE BUT I CANT!!! (K. Eggleston)
Re: forward mail no context (Eric G. Miller)
Re: Creating large numbers of user with passwords (AeonFlux®)
Re: Kernel will not boot. (AeonFlux®)
Re: I WANT TO DITCH WINDOZE BUT I CANT!!! (AeonFlux®)
Bash not running executables (Scott Prince)
Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution ("Paul E. Bell")
Re: Maintaining 2 Networks ("Waterworld")
Re: Say a prayer? (Eric G. Miller)
Re: Uncompressing a *.bz2 kernel
Re: I'm on, now how do I get off? (Eric G. Miller)
HELP with tcp_wrappers hosts.allow hosts.deny (Warren Bell)
Re: man command show "line ?/? (end)" (Raymond)
Re: LINUX AND COREL (Peter Samuelson)
Re: Removing a package from linux? (Andy Busch)
Re: POP3 and SMTP for Sendmail/Linux (sensei)
Color LaserJet 5 + RH6.0 (Eric _emaq_ Maquiling)
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From: AeonFlux® <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape font rendition: Linux vs Windows
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 23:45:24 -0400
On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 16:45:28 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I want a solution to this problem. Does anyone understand why
>Linux/Netscape (RedHat 6.0) would render fonts at a different size
>than Windows/Netscape? Does anyone have a clue what I should do?
>
>The site is accessed by going to
> http://bigbox.unl.edu/plane/open.htm
>and following the instructions there.
>
>Thank you!!
>
>David Jaffe
Problem: Bitmap fonts suck!
If you know the fonts are going be too big in your main audience's
browser, just make the fonts smaller than usual.
Look at the font settings in other Linux users pages; but, don't be
surprised if they used a windows program to write the page. A while
back, Applixware got slammed with flames for using Frontpage.
AeonFlux®
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Realplayer G2 for RH6.0
Date: 4 Sep 1999 01:26:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999 03:15:42 -0500 Avi Blackmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Last time I looked, there isn't yet a G2 version for Linux of any sort. The
>latest version that has been ported to systems other than Windows and MacOS is
>5.0, which works for most things. I read that RealMedia was working on a port
>of G2, but it isn't ready yet.
You're months behind, see <http://www.real.com/player/linux.html>
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Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy."
-Martin Luther on Copernicus' theory that the Earth orbits the sun
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (K. Eggleston)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: I WANT TO DITCH WINDOZE BUT I CANT!!!
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 23:08:18 -0500
In comp.os.linux.questions, AeonFlux® wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:02:17 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Azzy)
> wrote:
>
> >I am getting ever-closer to that point of no-return where one completely
> >removes Windoze and goes 100% Linux. However, I need a little help. A
> >lot of the services and conveniences of Wintel has pretty much become
> >ingrained in my life, and I'm not sure what (if any) alternatives are
> >available yet in Linux. If you fine fellows could edumicate me on the
> >following, it would be most helpful:
> >
> >1) Software. Certain applications are critical to my job and life. I
> >need to know if there are Linux versions or adequate replacements for
> >these in Linux--
> > * Quicken 98
> > * Cold Fusion Studio (aka Homesite.. the best HTML editor I have seen)
> > * Microsoft Outlook 2000 or Symantec ACT
> > * A good Java IDE (Visual Cafe Pro or VisualAge for Java are among my
> >favs)
> > * Visio Professional
> > * Adobe Illustrator
> > * Adobe Photoshop
> >
>
> These are end user tools.
OH I BEG YOUR PARDON.
I suppose you fancy yourself something other than an "end user"?
Don't look down your snout at me, bub. I am a Senior Systems Consultant,
goddamit and you'd betta RESPECT MAH AUTORITAH!!!!
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From: eric@localhost. (Eric G. Miller)
Subject: Re: forward mail no context
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 3 Sep 1999 21:01:27 -0700
In article <7ql2nr$g64$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Vincent wrote:
>I want to forward mail no context no attach file. How can I do ?
>
>Anyone can help me ?
>
>Vincent Lee mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Well, if you just want all of your mail sent to address a from address
b, create a ~/.forward file with a line holding the address where you
want the mail to go. If you want to forward a particular piece of mail,
that's client specific. Some mail clients have the "f" key bound to this
action.
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From: AeonFlux® <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Creating large numbers of user with passwords
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 23:16:05 -0400
On 3 Sep 1999 21:23:56 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Danny Aldham)
wrote:
>The passwd
>command does not lend itself to scripted input
There are some perl scripts that isp's use the do this; search the
web.
AeonFlux®
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From: AeonFlux® <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,sbay.linux,umich.linux,com.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Kernel will not boot.
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 23:21:05 -0400
On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 14:57:25 -0400, Craig Toshack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>It ther reports back that
>the kernel is too big.
make bzImage
The new kernel will be named bzImage.
AeonFlux®
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From: AeonFlux® <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: I WANT TO DITCH WINDOZE BUT I CANT!!!
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 23:28:24 -0400
On Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:02:17 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Azzy)
wrote:
>I am getting ever-closer to that point of no-return where one completely
>removes Windoze and goes 100% Linux. However, I need a little help. A
>lot of the services and conveniences of Wintel has pretty much become
>ingrained in my life, and I'm not sure what (if any) alternatives are
>available yet in Linux. If you fine fellows could edumicate me on the
>following, it would be most helpful:
>
>1) Software. Certain applications are critical to my job and life. I
>need to know if there are Linux versions or adequate replacements for
>these in Linux--
> * Quicken 98
> * Cold Fusion Studio (aka Homesite.. the best HTML editor I have seen)
> * Microsoft Outlook 2000 or Symantec ACT
> * A good Java IDE (Visual Cafe Pro or VisualAge for Java are among my
>favs)
> * Visio Professional
> * Adobe Illustrator
> * Adobe Photoshop
>
These are end user tools.
>2) A shared printer. I have several machines on my home network, all
>Windoze, which share a central HP LaserJet 3100 printer over the network.
>I need to know if it is possible, and how to do, for a Linux machine to
>print to this printer which is served by Windows NT. Is this Samba
>functionality? Would HP need to make a driver specific for Linux for it
>to work?
Linux makes for a great printer server. If it prints in postscript it
will print in Linux.
Printers that print in dos (not dos terminal window) will print in
Linux. Try a dos boot disk and use the PrintScreen Key or
dir /w /p | lp1 to test (print file.txt works for some)
>
>
>And that's really it. If I can get suitable replacements for those above
>programs, and resolve the printer issue, I would feel quite confident in
>scrapping NT and going Linux all the way.
>
>Thanks for your help,
>-Azzy
I here this complaint a lot.
Dual boot and use both? Don't worry, it's ok to use multiple os's.
AeonFlux®
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From: Scott Prince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Bash not running executables
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 00:20:43 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From the man pages... Bash looks for a command first, if not there it
assumes that it's an executable and executes if the file has the
permissions and exists in the path, and finally matches on the slashes
and checks the file to see if it is executable.
For some reason I can no longer cd to a directory and just type the
filename and have it execute. I have to do something like...
'perl /dir/script.pl'
Have I missed something here or is my shell not behaving properly?
Scott
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From: "Paul E. Bell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 22:46:29 -0500
Thanks for dropping by.
Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Birch <nospam> wrote:
> >
> >QNX does a number of things right that Linux does flat wrong (true
> >_uncrashable_ (almost) micro kernel, real time performance etc)
>
> Ehhh..
>
> Sure, teh QNX microkernel is pretty uncrashable. But have you ever asked
> yourself why? Maybe because it doesn't do all that much.
>
> Put it in a general-purpose system, do some real work with it, open it
> up to people who aren't polite, and see what happens. Not many people
> care that the microkernel hasn't crashed when everything else has.
Well, I guess I am one who would care. I would rather that the kernel
can recover my memory and restart my program than have the whole thing
crash and need a reboot. If I were writing drivers, I would especially
want to have some kind of recovery without reboot, rather than having
the kernel crash because a driver I was testing crashed.
Besides, Amigan's are used to a modular OS where every piece of the OS
sends messages to the pieces it interfaces with (Exec, Layers,
Intuition, etc.), and, by extension through ARexx, even programs can
regularly talk to each other, and even become super programs (working as
one), even when from different vendors. Since the QNX Neutrino OS works
essentially the same way, it looks like a better fit.
How does Linux (by the way, there has been a heated discussion here in
comp.sys.amiga.misc about how Linux is pronounced, and how you pronounce
your name, perhaps you could clear that up as well) handle interprocess
communications, or is it even supported by the kernel?
Also, Amigans are used to being able to dynamically load and unload
libraries, devices, drivers, etc., can Linux do this as well, or do
things like drivers and file systems _have_ to be compiled into the
kernel?
> >I'm sure you're right, the problem for QNX is that few people know how
> >good it is because it is so expensive (aimed at a different market).
>
> It's good for that market. But think about that _really_ means for a
> moment. Don't make the mistake of extrapolating goodness in a very
> specialized market into goodness a more real-life and much less
> constrained market.
Well, they (QNX) are obviously aming at a different market with the QNX
Neutrino/Photon "Personal QNX" they are looking at introducing in
conjunction with Phase5. I have wanted to use QNX for quite some time
now, but never saw a price, never saw it on shelves, never saw any
software for it. If this "personal" version takes off, it may very well
be a great OS for many people. Surely it will be great for budding and
amateur scientists, experimenters in Ham Radio and Computer Science, and
other hobyist markets. Whether it will garner the lucrative game and
business developers who write for Windows/Dos remains to be seen. Then
again, the same could be said for whatever Amiga comes up with, now that
Jim Collas is no longer with them.
Whether either (Linux or QNX) can become a consumer OS remains to be
seen. I have a friend at work who is a staunch supporter of Linux, but
freely admits that it is not the OS for first time computer users,
Grandpa, or anyone else who just wants to turn on the computer, click on
an icon, do their work (or play), quit and shut down. I don't know that
Win9x exactly fills that bill, either, what with all the rebooting,
reloading, and reinstalling one has to do just to have a stable (I use
the term loosly, very loosly) system. It is certainly not as easy to
install a program under Win9x as it is under AmigaDos, nor as easy to
get rid of everything associated with that program. I have not taken
the Linux plunge, yet (need a better computer first), but, if things
don't improve in the Amiga scene by next spring, I will probably do so.
Well, I guess you are a busy man, but again, thanks for dropping by,
Paul
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From: "Waterworld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.network,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Maintaining 2 Networks
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 11:32:52 +0800
Tony Green ¼¶¼g©ó¤å³¹ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Well,
>
>I use a lan connection and ppp at the same time without any problems. As
for
>dynamic DNS etc - thats a different problem.
>
So .. May I ask how to deal with DHCP configuration in RedHat 5.2.??
I am connecting to a LAN and optain IP from DHCP when I am using WIN98.
Thx in advance!!
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From: eric@localhost. (Eric G. Miller)
Subject: Re: Say a prayer?
Date: 3 Sep 1999 21:47:42 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Edgar M. Brocke wrote:
>I just purchased Caldera 2.2 and I am feeling like I wish I never had.
\snip
>I ended up using Lisa to install, and that seemed to work ok, but when I
>configured XF86 (according to the computer this was a successful config)
>when I tried to run kde or xwindows I just get a "X" cursor and a checkered
>pattern on the screen (where kde/xwindows should be.)
Did you use "startx" ? If so, your configuration is probably wrong
somewhere. Your video hardware shouldn't be a problem. Try XF86Setup
with xvidtune to adjust the video timings.
>What was your experience with this product? Like I said, I'm discouraged and
>seriosly considering to just stick with Win98. :-(
There's a steep learning curve initially, but if you stick with it the
benefits will emerge.
>By the way, I had purchased a $1.89 cd from LinuxMall, and found out that
>the "easy" installation is only available with the retail version; SO I
>purchased the retail version (which doesn't work any better for me thus
>far.)
Why buy retail? Try http://www.cheapbytes.com in the future. I'm liking
debian these days. I like their package management better than rpms.
>If it makes any difference, my computer is a Pentium 166 with 64 megs ram,
>10.2 Gig Maxtor HD, Matrox Mystique Video card, and ViewSonic G771 monitor.
Drives larger than 8.0 Gigs aren't recognized by some older partitioning
tools. Other than that, what you've listed should be well supported.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Uncompressing a *.bz2 kernel
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 02:53:38 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Raul Trujillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
><!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
><html>
>Can anyone give me simple instructions on uncompressing a *.bz2 kernel?
><p>Thanks in advance.
><p>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
><br>
><br> </html>
>
bunzip2 kernel.bz2
bzip2 is the corresponding compression function.
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From: eric@localhost. (Eric G. Miller)
Subject: Re: I'm on, now how do I get off?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 3 Sep 1999 21:10:07 -0700
In article <7qkrnp$1mok$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Scott wrote:
>I'm using minicom and pppd to access my provider, but after I'm done I can't
>disconnect. I've tried hanging up and quitting and resetting on minicom.
>Only way I can disconnect is by rebooting!!!!
>
>There must be a better way.
>
>Scott
su -c 'killall pppd'
Yes, there are several better ways. Do you have pppconfig with your
distribution? If you do, I'd suggest using it. Alternatively, there's
wvdial.
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Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 04:47:22 +0000
From: Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP with tcp_wrappers hosts.allow hosts.deny
I've been going round and round with trying to get hosts.allow and deny
to restrict access from telnet and cant figure it out. I've read the
man pages and searched the web. I've tried all the examples but none
seem to work.
I want to deny telnet access from everyone but people in my domain.
This is what I have in hosts.deny:
in.telnetd: ALL EXCEPT .jps.net
I've tried
in.telnetd: ALL : DENY EXCEPT .jps.net
I've tried in.telnetd: ALL in hosts.deny and an entry in hosts.allow for
my domain and that still doesn't work. Cany anyone help me out with
this? So far whatever I do just denies telnet access from everyone.
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From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: man command show "line ?/? (end)"
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 04:31:07 GMT
George Vlahoulis wrote:
>
> On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 02:31:07 GMT, Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Raymond Cheng wrote:
> >
> >I am using slackware 3.6 and when I input the command, for example "man
> >ls" in one of the MANPATH (where ls.1.gz exists), it just showed "line
> >?/? (end)" at the bottom of the screen. Some newsgroup said that tried
> >to run the command "gzip -dc ls.1.gz" first, but the result is the
> >same. What is the problem? Thanks a lot.
> >
> >
>
> Is this for all man pages or just one? Can you access ANY of the man
pages?
>
> gv
>
> >
> >------------------ Posted via CNET Linux Help ------------------
> > http://www.searchlinux.com
The result is same for all man pages. Thanks
================== Posted via CNET Linux Help ==================
http://www.searchlinux.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Samuelson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: LINUX AND COREL
Date: 3 Sep 1999 23:45:58 -0500
Reply-To: Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Dr H. T. Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> What do you mean?
[...]
> I think you mean a full Office (e.g. "CorelOffice" or something like
> that) suite?
WordPerfect Office 2000 aka WP 9 etc (oooh, let's follow in Microsoft's
naming conventions footsteps again, remember when real version numbers
all but disappeared from 'doze software in favor of two-digit year
numbers?) is apparently being ported as we speak. Corel has taken the
strategy of helping develop winelib with the goal of being able to
recompile rather than rewrite their own code.
--
Peter Samuelson
<sampo.creighton.edu!psamuels>
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From: Andy Busch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Removing a package from linux?
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 04:42:27 +0000
Leonard Evens wrote:
>
> Brad Powell wrote:
> >
> > How do I remove a software package (specifically applix) and all of
> > the links/menu items?
> If it was installed using a makefile, there may be a make clean
> option. If it was installed by a script, you would have to
> examine the script to see what was done and then remove all
> the directories and files that were created. You may also have
> to undo changes that may have been made to various system
> files, although it is usually not crucial that you do so.
If you installed it via a makefile (e.g. 'make install') then you
actually want 'make uninstall'. 'make clean' typically removes compiled
programs from the source directory, so you can recompile a program (e.g.
one with a bug)
Andy
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From: sensei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: POP3 and SMTP for Sendmail/Linux
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.security.general
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 20:23:03 +1700
I had a similar problem ....
I was able to send mail to local users internally to my
system, but not able to "pop" mail using my netscape mail
client.
I fixed the problem by downloading the "qpopper" program
from www.qualcomm.com.
I compiled and installed the program as per instructions.
Tested andDdbugged the installation as per the
documentation, and now everything works perfectly!
This might be a solution to your problem, or it might be
right off the track.
Another reason that mail doesn't work properly, is that you
may not have the MX (mail exchanger) records in your DNS
setup correctly configured.
By the way, you are restarting the sendmail and named
daemons after you make changes to the configurations aren't
you?
Luke
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From: Eric _emaq_ Maquiling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Color LaserJet 5 + RH6.0
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 22:37:53 -0700
Has anyone got the color to work on the HP ColorLaserJet 5 and Red Hat 6.0?=
I have it working on the
III/4/5/6 driver but no color. Is there a workaround or a new filter float=
ing around?
Eric =A8emaq" Maquiling
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