Linux-Misc Digest #233, Volume #24 Sat, 22 Apr 00 14:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Which modem is good for LINUX (Robert Schweikert)
Re: here's a good one for you, man's broke (Nick Kew)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Andrew M. Kuchling)
software installation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Dual Boot and X windows Problem ("Singapore Guy")
Re: Which modem is good for LINUX ("fdf")
Having trouble linking to the X11 lib ("Whittick")
Re: Dual Boot and X windows Problem ("Shan J. Gill")
Optimizing Swap Partitions (mike)
Re: Having trouble linking to the X11 lib (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Knews (Frank Hahn)
SuSE 6.0 - 6.4 upgrade and kernel hassels (Stewart Honsberger)
Creating dummy processes (redline)
Re: Help - How do you pronounce GNU? (Gnome)
Re: Kernel Compile problem (Robie Basak)
Re: here's a good one for you, man's broke (Robie Basak)
Re: Check whether an application is running (Gerald Willmann)
Re: back-up options? (Dances With Crows)
Re: Which modem is good for LINUX ("David ..")
Re: Creating dummy processes (Leejay Wu)
Re: Optimizing Swap Partitions (Dances With Crows)
Re: Having trouble linking to the X11 lib (Leejay Wu)
Re: Optimizing Swap Partitions (Michael Mitchell)
Re: Phat Linux installation (Michael Mitchell)
comparsions between ipmasq firewall and wingate ("Henry Su")
Re: comparsions between ipmasq firewall and wingate (Rick Matthews)
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From: Robert Schweikert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which modem is good for LINUX
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 11:11:08 -0400
I have very good experirnce with USRobotics.
Make sure you do not buy a WIN modem, they will NOT work. Just make sure
that whatever you buy has jumpers such that you can configure IRQ and
the Port. I prefer internal modems, some other people I know like to
have externals, the choice is up to you. Also check out the modem HowTo:
http://www.linux.org/help/ldp/howto/Modem-HOWTO.html
Have fun.
Robert
fdf wrote:
> I want to buy a new modem run on LINUX
> which one is support LINUX???
> Pls advise!!!!
> Thanks.
--
Robert Schweikert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Kew)
Crossposted-To: freenetname.linux,uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: here's a good one for you, man's broke
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:03:05 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Blackburn) writes:
> Any ideas????
To add to the other suggestions, you *might* get a misleading error message
if your actual error is that /tmp is full so man couldn't create a tmp file.
--
Nick Kew
We're so advanced here ... our nearest main road is A 386
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.lang.java.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew M. Kuchling)
Date: 22 Apr 2000 11:27:53 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne) quoted:
> >"Roger Blake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Well, it is a clone of Unix, after all. :-) (See the book "The Unix
> >> Haters' Handbook" for an insight into some of Unix's problems.)
I wrote a review of the book 2 years ago
(http://starship.python.net/crew/amk/writing/unix-haters.html). A
sizable number of the flaws are minor things that are readily fixed by
patching a particular tool, to make 'tar -cvf dummy.tar' not create an
empty archive and that sort of thing. I did think the chapter on X was
pretty accurate, though; X makes many things too difficult, but no
other living system provides the same capabilities.
--
A.M. Kuchling http://starship.python.net/crew/amk/
So Python's only cross-platform choices were to mimic the C/POSIX API or
invent its own new x-platform API; only one of those is realistic (as Java
proves every day <wink>).
-- Tim Peters, 21 Feb 99
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: software installation
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 15:19:20 GMT
newbie trying to install DB2. successfully
downloaded from ibm and untarred. supposed to run
db2setup but have no idea how. tried 'install -g
db2setup' at Xterm $ but got too few arguments
response. went to 'man install' which totally
confused me, but tried many options but always got
'too few arguments in response'. anyone know how i
can install db2 or in general what i'm doing
wrong?
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Singapore Guy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Dual Boot and X windows Problem
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:48:46 +0800
My situation is a little different:
I am using Windows 2000 in my first IDE harddisk, and Redhat 6.2 on
my first SCSI harddisk. During installation of 6.2, I made the mistake of
choosing KDE workstation instead of custom. So Redhat installed LILO
into the boot partition of my IDE drive. So when I boot my system now,
LILO comes up.
I have since changed LILO's configuration so that it boots into Windows2000
by default instead of Linux. I can elect to boot linux by typing linux at
LILO's
boot prompt when it comes up. I guess I don't need to get System Commander
afterall :-)
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From: "fdf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which modem is good for LINUX
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:40:31 +0800
Can u pls which model no. of your USRobotics??
Robert Schweikert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have very good experirnce with USRobotics.
>
> Make sure you do not buy a WIN modem, they will NOT work. Just make sure
> that whatever you buy has jumpers such that you can configure IRQ and
> the Port. I prefer internal modems, some other people I know like to
> have externals, the choice is up to you. Also check out the modem HowTo:
>
> http://www.linux.org/help/ldp/howto/Modem-HOWTO.html
>
> Have fun.
> Robert
>
> fdf wrote:
>
> > I want to buy a new modem run on LINUX
> > which one is support LINUX???
> > Pls advise!!!!
> > Thanks.
>
> --
> Robert Schweikert
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
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From: "Whittick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Having trouble linking to the X11 lib
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:00:39 GMT
When i compile a program ld cannot find the X11 lib? (i also cant link to
any lib in /usr/X11R6/lib)
when i run ldconfig -p the library is present
Any suggestions to what is wrong?
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From: "Shan J. Gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Dual Boot and X windows Problem
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:06:10 -0700
> How can i boot Linux from Windows 2000 Loader page?
>
Look at:
http://www.linuxhq.com/ldp/mini/Multiboot-with-LILO.html
> Secondly, my X windows screen setting is so big, i can't see all the
> files because the icon and word is too big. How can i change it to
> smaller like 800x600 setting.
Read:
http://www.linuxhq.com/ldp/howto/XFree86-HOWTO.html
These should get you going in the right direction.
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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Optimizing Swap Partitions
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 12:12:37 -0400
How would I analyze my swap space to see how it is being
used and if it would pay to up size it or down size it or leave it
alone.
Also, how would I resize my existing swap partition assuming
I have the space and tell the system how much there is. Right
now I think that I created a swap partition that may be overly
large.
Thanks
Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: Having trouble linking to the X11 lib
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:11:00 GMT
On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:00:39 GMT, Whittick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>When i compile a program ld cannot find the X11 lib? (i also cant link
>to any lib in /usr/X11R6/lib)
>when i run ldconfig -p the library is present
>
>Any suggestions to what is wrong?
Do you have XFree86-devel installed? The libs it is looking for
typically look like 'libX11.a'.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Subject: Re: Knews
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:10:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 01:40:50 GMT, Rod Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Once I run it the first time to get the active and description files
>> then I always start it with a one-line script so I don't do it again.
>> I use knews -active -descriptions +fill &
>
>You can actually set these sorts of options in the configuration file.
>It's in the ~/.knews directory, and is called config-{newserver}, where
>{newserver} is the name of your news server. You can also set the editor
>you use for replies, whether or not it checks for new newsgroups, etc.
>
I believe some of these can also be set in the .Xdefaults file.
I don't use Knews now but I still had the following in my
.Xdefaults file:
Knews.*.retrieveDescriptions: False
Knews.*.readActiveFile: False
Knews.*.fillNewsrcFile: True
Knews.urlCommand: netscape
Knews.nntpServer: #spool
Knews.#spool: knewsd -spool /var/spool/slrnpull/news \
-active /var/spool/slrnpull/data/active
Knews.checkForNewGroups: False
--
Frank Hahn
Old programmers never die. They just branch to a new address.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: SuSE 6.0 - 6.4 upgrade and kernel hassels
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:13:15 GMT
I've recently upgraded from SuSE 6.0 to SuSE 6.4 (I wanted the Glibc2.1
upgrade to be as painless as possible. ;> ), and am now having, oddly enough,
kernel problems.
I've been compiling the 2.2.14 kernel pretty well since the day it came out,
and have never had any problems like I'm having now! For some strange reason,
I can't make the 2.2.14 kernel from kernel.org work with my mouse. Under 6.0
I had it working, but now it won't. For some reason, the 2.2.14 kernel shipped
with SuSE works with my mouse, but not the kernel.org version. This is a little
troubling, because I want to be able to upgrade to the 2.4.* kernels without
having to wait for SuSE 6.5!
This might be related somehow;
On bootup while initializing the serial ports, I get several (dozen) messages
along the lines of;
/etc/conf.modules is newer than /usr/lib/modules/2.2.14/modules.dep
(or something similar. It doesn't appear in dmesg, and has since scrolled
off the screen in tty10). What causes this? For the record, I also get it
on a SuSE 6.2 box I have running elsewhere.
I get the same message when running the kernel.org 2.2.14 kernel, but not
as often. The message seems to appear when initializing the serial ports,
and possibly when initializing other devices, but I can't be sure. (I never
thought I'd say this, but my system is too fast ;> ).
Any help is appreciated!
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.2.14
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From: redline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Creating dummy processes
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:21:17 GMT
I've been given an assignment to create a script to create 100 hundred
dummy processes. Currently the method I'm using to create my process is
fork. However, when I call fork from my perl script it forks the
calling process which is the execution of the perl script. My result is
an endless loop. My question is how can I call create a dummy process
from something other than the calling program?
I know you can do something like execl("/bin/ls") but when I type this
in from the shell in it gives me an error.
Can someone give me the exact syntax to use to create a dummy process
from the shell prompt?
Thanks for the help
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Gnome <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help - How do you pronounce GNU?
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:30:05 GMT
Tandem Guy wrote:
>
> So, how do you pronounce GNU?
>
I can row a boat
canoe?
My favorite software is
GNU.
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: Kernel Compile problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 22 Apr 2000 16:52:55 GMT
On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 20:39:29 +0800, Yanie said:
>I've done kernel compiling before and it worked. I used RedHat Linux 5.2,
>upgraded it's kernel (i'm sorry I can't recall exactly the kernel version).
>I was experimenting 'unstable' kernel version.
>
>Now, back to present day. few days back I tried re-compiling the kernel for
>Zoot (RH 6.2). Done compiling, I ran linuxconf so that lilo would
>selectively boot to the new kernel. There is an option that says root disk
>(i think). I tried putting the root disk used by the existing kernel, only
>linuxconf refused to accept that.
>
>So, I altered /etc/lilo.conf manually, ran lilo -C, lilo accepted my new
>lilo.conf. When I boot, I came to a point that a message saying "Kernel
>panic : Can't mount .....". I don't remember the rest of the message. As I
>said, it was done few days back, the machine is not mine.
Edit /etc/lilo.conf, add the option:
root=/dev/hda1
changing hda1 to whatever it is in your case (/etc/fstab should tell you).
Then rerun LILO:
/sbin/lilo
Robie.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: here's a good one for you, man's broke
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 22 Apr 2000 16:56:03 GMT
On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:03:05 +0000, Nick Kew said:
>[freenetname.linux,uk.comp.os.linux is not present on my news server]
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Blackburn) writes:
>
>> Any ideas????
>
>To add to the other suggestions, you *might* get a misleading error message
>if your actual error is that /tmp is full so man couldn't create a tmp file.
(Also if /var/catman is full)
In addition, catman may then end up with 0 length files etc, so man
may further refuse to work. You may need to clear these out.
(catman contains a cache of formatted man pages).
Robie.
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Check whether an application is running
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 09:55:25 -0700
On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Penpal International wrote:
> How can I check whether an application is running and if no, how to
> start it.
> I want to use this is the crontab because some application regular stop
> working...
check with ps and grep but it's probably better to find out why they stop
running - my daemons certainly don't. And what if crond stops running.
Gerald
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: back-up options?
Date: 22 Apr 2000 13:10:23 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:30:44 -0400, Matt Friedman
<<3Z9M4.3100$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I guess I'm leaning toward CD-R/CD-RW so I can save a portable and secure
>archive of my work and all the stuff that I can't simply re-install [like the
>RPMs and tarballs]. I could also use those files in any CD-equipped computer,
>if necessary. As for my server, I'd only be really inclined to back-up /etc.
>[Not much going on over there...] Also, the media are cheap.
>
>Given that situation, I'm just wondering if anyone can come up with a really
>compelling reason NOT to go with CD-R/RW... And I'm also wondering
>(a) how well CD-R/RW works under Linux, and (b) if there are any things
>I should know about these beasts in terms of compatibility, etc., before
>I start shopping.
CD-RWs work really well under Linux. However, people have reported
problems with some Sony drives and the Iomega ZipCD--these don't quite
support the full ATAPI command set, it seems. I bought a Philips 460RW
4/4/16 for $160 about 6 months ago; works really well. You can get
something faster for cheaper now.
Read the CD-RW HOWTO: http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO.html
and take a look at "backburner" on freshmeat.net for some utilities to
make backing up/restoring much easier.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which modem is good for LINUX
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 12:00:06 -0500
fdf wrote:
>
> I want to buy a new modem run on LINUX
> which one is support LINUX???
> Pls advise!!!!
> Thanks.
I use the 3com courier and have no problems with it at all. I would
recommend it to anyone but it is not cheap.
--
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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From: Leejay Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Creating dummy processes
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:04:57 -0400
Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux.misc: 22-Apr-100 Creating dummy
processes by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I've been given an assignment to create a script to create 100 hundred
> dummy processes. Currently the method I'm using to create my process is
> fork. However, when I call fork from my perl script it forks the
> calling process which is the execution of the perl script. My result
> is an endless loop. My question is how can I call create a dummy
> process from something other than the calling program?
*sigh*
Was your code something like
# let's invoke something like 2^100 children...
my $ct = 0;
for ($ct=0; $ct < 100; $ct++) {
fork();
}
which will NOT work (from the POV of needing exactly 100)?
In Perl/C, fork *will* suffice, but there's something more you
should check.
Hint: parent and child get different return values. I won't be
more specific about how to use it, 'coz it IS an assignment and
presumably the class isn't on Reading USENET.
> I know you can do something like execl("/bin/ls") but when I type this
> in from the shell in it gives me an error.
>
> Can someone give me the exact syntax to use to create a dummy process
> from the shell prompt?
--
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | the silly student |
|--------------------------| he writes really bad haiku |
| #include <stddiscl.h> | readers all go mad |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Optimizing Swap Partitions
Date: 22 Apr 2000 13:24:57 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 12:12:37 -0400, mike
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> How would I analyze my swap space to see how it is being
>used and if it would pay to up size it or down size it or leave it
>alone.
Open up a whole bunch of programs at once--everything you usually use at
the same time, like 3 Netscrape windows, 5 or 6 xterms, xmms, GIMP, etc.
Then take a look at the output of "free". If the swap space being used is
> 50%, you really don't have enough swap. If it's < 20%, you probably
have too much. The rule of thumb in the past was "swap=2xRAM" but that's
no longer quite valid since RAM has gotten relatively cheap. If you're a
"normal user" and have > 256M of swap, you probably have too much. 128M
of swap is a pretty good value in these days of cheap multigigabyte
drives.
> Also, how would I resize my existing swap partition assuming
>I have the space and tell the system how much there is. Right
>now I think that I created a swap partition that may be overly
>large.
Have a look at GNU parted, available on freshmeat.net.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: Leejay Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Having trouble linking to the X11 lib
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:23:17 -0400
Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux.misc: 22-Apr-100 Having trouble
linking to t.. by "Whittick"@nf.sympatico.
> When i compile a program ld cannot find the X11 lib? (i also cant link
> to any lib in /usr/X11R6/lib)
> when i run ldconfig -p the library is present
It's most likely not in ld's search path. -L/usr/X11R6/lib is a pretty
traditional addition to many a Makefile.
> Any suggestions to what is wrong?
--
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | the silly student |
|--------------------------| he writes really bad haiku |
| #include <stddiscl.h> | readers all go mad |
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From: Michael Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Optimizing Swap Partitions
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:28:59 GMT
Your swap space is used every time your physical ram reaches it limit.
The amount that is suggested on most documents that I have read is your
swap file should be twice the amount of ram you have available.
Example: 64 meg Ram= 128meg swap space
Too much swap space will not hurt you other than wasting space on your
hard drive that may be needed by another / .
mike wrote:
> How would I analyze my swap space to see how it is being
> used and if it would pay to up size it or down size it or leave it
> alone.
> Also, how would I resize my existing swap partition assuming
> I have the space and tell the system how much there is. Right
> now I think that I created a swap partition that may be overly
> large.
> Thanks
> Mike
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From: Michael Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Phat Linux installation
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:34:52 GMT
I have Linux installed on other machines where Linux is the only operating
system. This is just an attempt to install Linux on this system without
adding an extra hard drive or partitioning.
Mike Mitchell wrote:
> I am trying to install the Phat Linux. After executing linux.bat from
> dos(safe mode), the program begins but stops after reaching
>
> -process swapper
> -stack
> -Call trace
> -Code 89 45 00 8b bd 00 83 6c 24 10 01 73 bc c7 45 00 00 00 00 00
>
> Somebody please nuge me in the right direction!
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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From: "Henry Su" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: comparsions between ipmasq firewall and wingate
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 12:44:10 -0500
please give me some ammo as far as pushing my upper management in the right
direction (we all know what that is....)
here is what i came up with:
1) linux ipmasq is free for unlimited users; wingate is not.
2) linux ipmasq can offer vpnmasq for vpn access; wingate can not
there is got be more, and any help is greatly appreciated. please be
specific, i mean, these people can't take a statement like linux (a properly
installed) is more secure / outperforms any windows installation (despite
the fact that we all know it is true.)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: comparsions between ipmasq firewall and wingate
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Matthews)
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 18:04:24 GMT
[posted and mailed]
Henry Su <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>please give me some ammo as far as pushing my upper management in
>the right direction (we all know what that is....)
>
You'll find a good bit of ammo here:
http://www.linux-firewall-tools.com/linux/
Including a couple of reference papers.
Rick
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