Linux-Misc Digest #899, Volume #24 Fri, 23 Jun 00 08:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: GNU/LINUX at city of Boston Public Library departments (Charles Philip Chan)
Viewing Chinese characters in RH Linux (Tan Chee Sin)
Re: Get single line in shell script (Chris Boyd)
Re: Problem running files... :( (John Eriksson)
Re: REBOL (Scot Hacker)
Re: Binary <> Linux and Ethernet cards (Binary)
s.n.a.f.u. ("Uncle")
Upgrade rh 6.1 kernel to 2.2.16 (Francisco De La Cruz)
Re: A bash bug? (Guardian)
RedHat 6.2 POP3 Server Installation Problem ("ARMH")
System can not run ("Benson Lei")
Re: Cannot Login into Linux (Guardian)
Re: POSIX, what the heck...??? ("Craig Andrews")
Telnet LINUX ("ctrl_alt")
tool for joining various (text) files, editing and splitting them (Uwe Brauer)
strange linux install error ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Telnet LINUX (-~=Darek M=~-)
Re: tool for joining various (text) files, editing and splitting them (-~=Darek M=~-)
Re: Cannot Login into Linux (Lew Pitcher)
Re: gcc-2.95.2 rpm? Where? (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: Cannot install new Mandrake. Help!!! (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: Upgrading glibc/gtk issue (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: GNU/LINUX at city of Boston Public Library departments ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: A bash bug? (Mark Bratcher)
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Subject: Re: GNU/LINUX at city of Boston Public Library departments
From: Charles Philip Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 23 Jun 2000 03:27:15 +0500
>>>>> "David" == David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've never seen Vi or Emacs reformat a document capriciously and
> maliciously. Vi and Emacs don't seem to have an autosave
> feature that saves the document you are working on every five
> minutes just incase the computer crashes.
Don't know about Vi but X/Emacs does have an outosave feature.
Charles
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 16:00:40 +0800
From: Tan Chee Sin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Viewing Chinese characters in RH Linux
Is there a way to do it? In Windows, I could just install a viewer like
NJStar Communicator.
Is there also a Chinese word processor for Linux?
Chee Sin
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From: Chris Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Get single line in shell script
Date: 23 Jun 2000 08:38:47 GMT
Robie Basak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:56:13 +0200, Markus Grabner said:
:>
:> Hi!
:>
:> I'm looking for a simple program that reads a single line from the
:>terminal and outputs it on stdout, so I can do things like that in a
:>shell script:
:>
:>echo "please enter your name: "
:>NAME=`read_line_from_terminal`
:>echo "your name is " $NAME
: echo -n "please enter your name: "
: read NAME
: echo "your name is $NAME"
It's very important to specify the shell; not everyone uses bash, even
with Linux.
The previous suggestions work with sh and bash. For tcsh and csh you
would need,
echo -n "please enter your name: "
set NAME=$<
echo "your name is $NAME"
--
/usr/bin/echo 'HO\010ez\010lll\010o we\010oz\010r0\010ll\010d'
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From: John Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem running files... :(
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 11:45:37 +0300
Paul Kimoto wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Eriksson wrote:
> > I downloaded Doom a few days ago, unpacked it, and tried to run the
> > executables
> > but I only get the error:
> > "bash: ./xdoom: cannot execute binary file"
> >
> > I mean shouldn't I be able to run it as it is? In the Readme it says
> > nothing
> > about having to do womething else but run the file... :/
>
> You may need to have (different) libraries available on your system. What
> are the outputs of "file ./xdoom" and "ldd ./xdoom"?
"file ./xdoom":
./xdoom: Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (ZMAGIC), stripped
"ldd ./xdoom":
not a dynamic executable
That are the outputs, give any help?
--
/(/john5
~it's oh so scary~
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scot Hacker)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.misc,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: REBOL
Date: 23 Jun 2000 09:04:03 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 22 Jun 2000 06:52:47 GMT, Pete Goodeve wrote:
>I'm curious to know if anyone has actually been using REBOL (Carl Sassenrath's
>interpretive scripting language) for anything practical yet. If so, what
>are your feelings about it? (I have no connection with the company -- just
>personal interest...)
Ryan Christian at BeOS Journal (http://www.beosjournal.com/) seems to be the
biggest proponent / user of REBOL on BeOS. Try contacting him from his site.
Scot
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The Alt.OS Usability Challenge: http://www.betips.net/challenge/
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From: Binary <.@.>
Subject: Re: Binary <> Linux and Ethernet cards
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 11:05:32 +0200
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On 22 Jun 2000 15:42:52 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
wrote:
>Reputedly this card uses a "Sundance" chip. If so, it may be supported
>by Donald Becker's (who else?) driver available through
>
>http://www.scyld.com/network/via-rhine.html
Thanks a lot.
Binary
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From: "Uncle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: s.n.a.f.u.
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:15:47 GMT
Hi everyone,
I'm working on some shell scripts to help me monitor logs and current system
information, quick access to common confs, etc. I'm calling the program
s.n.a.f.u. and im finding thats usually the case when I use it, hehe.
Anyway,
s.n.a.f.u. is at the point where I'd love some outside input. Anyone
interested in trying it can swing by http://www.geekcave.net and check it
out.
Its only been tested on RH 6.0 and 6.1 so i don't know how it'll handle
other distros. Any suggestions, comments, complaints, flames, etc.,
can be sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks,
Uncle
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.geekcave.net
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From: Francisco De La Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Upgrade rh 6.1 kernel to 2.2.16
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 05:17:24 -0400
For the last couple of days I've been trying to bring my kernel
to 2.2.16. No matter the method i get this error:
no setup signature found
Now i know rh 6.1 released rpms for that kernel. I hope that
does not mean i can't "manually" upgrade. Anyways, the first
time I tried 'make oldconfig' for as you might remember, use
my old .config file. That didn't work. So i said, ok let me just
try 'make xconfig', but after going through the emotions i got
the same error...What am i'm doing wrong?
Thanx in advance, Francisco.
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From: Guardian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A bash bug?
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 05:13:06 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:16:39 -0400, Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hi.
>
>When I use bash as my login shell, I cannot create/write/delete/move a
>file that exists under a directory that I don't own, but under which I
>have group write permissions. Using csh, I have no problem.
>
>I think this needs an example:
>
>Suppose I have the following directory:
>
>drwxrwxr-x 5 fred users 1024 May 30 10:28 ShareDir
>
>Suppose further that I am logged in as 'bill' who is also in the 'users'
>group. If the /etc/passwd file has /bin/bash as the login shell for
>'bill', and I change directory to ShareDir, I do not have permission to
>create a file there. However, if I set the login shell for 'bill' in
>/etc/passwd to be /bin/csh, I _am_ able to create a file under ShareDir
>when logged in as 'bill'.
>
>Is this a bug somewhere with bash? BTW, I'm running RedHat 6.2, kernel
>2.2.14-5
>
>Thanks.
>Mark
If I understand correctly, there is no problem here. You will not
find a directory with these set permission outside a users home
directory, unless you create one and chmod it. Where is this share
anyway. If it's in root then only root should have been able to
create it.
The point being, you will not find a dir with these permissions and a
normal user cannot create one outside of his directory either. Make
sure all home dirs have drwx--x--x or less and you will not have this
problem. Because it would be impossible for a user in the "users"
group to create such a share in any directory other than his own; then
no one else could even "ls" the directory to read the files much less
create files.
You must have created this directory as root?
Guardian
Guardian
Remove NOSPAM is you feel the need.
Otherwise, don't bother me.
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From: "ARMH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RedHat 6.2 POP3 Server Installation Problem
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:31:38 +0800
I have freshly installed RH 6.2 and SMTP works fine. But I have problem with
POP3 Server.
I have enabled POP3 in the inetd.conf file, I can telnet to port 110 but
strangely it closes rather quickly.
When I use a POP3 client from Windows machine, I get the error message
saying the POP3 server terminated abruptly may be due to network problem or
the account must have been not in use for long time.
Can some one please help me.
Is there is setting need to be done on sendmail.cf or sendmail.cw files.
regards,
ARMH
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From: "Benson Lei" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: System can not run
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:31:37 -0700
Hi, every expert,
My Linux Server can not start up at boot.
During boot up, the problem shows up:
Freeing unused kernel memory: 64K freed
init: /usr/i386-glibc20-linux/lib/libc.so.6: no version information
available ( required by init )
init: error in loading shared libraries:
/usr/i386-glibc20-Linux/lib/libc.so.6: undefined symbol:
_dl_global_scope_end
And the system can not go further.
Why ???
When I try to use the floppy to boot up, the problem is:
VFS: Insert root floppy disk to be loaded into RAM disk and press Enter.
warning: unable to open a initial console.
Kernel panic: no init found. Try passing init=option to kernel.
How ----- ????????????
I am using RH Linux V6.1
Thank you for your help.
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From: Guardian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot Login into Linux
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 05:54:48 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 07:40:57 GMT, Jitesh Batra
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi...
>I am running a Redhat Kinux 6.0.
>We are unable to login on the console in init 3 mode. We are only able
>to work in linux single mode.
>Whenever we give a user name on the login prompt, it does not ask for a
>password and we get back the new login prompt..
>We have been unable to figure out the problem
>
>Further the telnet login shows the /etc/issue , but does not give a
>login prompt.
>Please help it is causing the entire network shutdown
>
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
inittab
agetty
scripts
hell check everything, someone may have rm something.
Guardian
"yeah, i'm slak!"
Guardian
Remove NOSPAM is you feel the need.
Otherwise, don't bother me.
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From: "Craig Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: POSIX, what the heck...???
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 11:54:35 +0100
POSIX is a standard, like ANSI. If something is POSIX compliant, it means
that it conforms to the standards set by the committee who created the
standard.
Many shells (bash and sh included) are also POSIX compliant.
POSIX stands for Portable Operating System Interface. More info can be found
at http://www.whatis.com/posix.htm
Hope this helps
Craig
Hendrix wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi guys,
>
>What the heck is POSIX...??? What does it stand for, and what does it
>mean...??? I've seen the reference to POSIX Compliance, but I still
>have no idea what it is... Any information will be greatly
>appreciated...
>
>Thanks,
>Trevor...
>----------------------
>That's alright, I still got my guitar...
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From: "ctrl_alt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Telnet LINUX
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 11:29:35 +0100
Ok guys i need a simple help :what do i have to do to a ordinal user be able
to telnet a linux box couse at this moment when i try to telnet he ask me
for the login / password and then brake my connection.what do i have to do
to be able to put the su password ????
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From: Uwe Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.unix.misc,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.shell
Subject: tool for joining various (text) files, editing and splitting them
Date: 23 Jun 2000 12:47:35 +0000
Hello
I am looking for a simple tool to join various (text) files (which say
have the same extension, but are located in various directories) to a
single file, editing them and finally splitt them again.
Does anybocy know about such a tool,
Thanks
Uwe Brauer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: strange linux install error
Date: 23 Jun 2000 11:07:35 GMT
I am trying to figure out a problem for my boss who is trying to install
storm linux on a Sony VAIO. Having tried three different partition sizes,
he continually gets the error:
warning: device 0x0307 exceeds 1024 cylinder limit
geo_comp_addr: Cylinder number 13 too big (1778 > 1023)
This seems to me a boot sector problem? It could be something else, but I
was wondering if anyone had had a similar problem and how it could be
solved. I stress that I haven't seen the error myself, so I cannot give any
real help. It seems it only happens right at the end of the install (ie
very frustrating).
Any help appreciated.
Paul
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Subject: Re: Telnet LINUX
From: -~=Darek M=~- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 04:49:44 -0700
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Subject: Re: tool for joining various (text) files, editing and splitting them
From: -~=Darek M=~- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 04:52:31 -0700
I can only help you joining the text files together.
cat text1.txt > alltext.txt
cat text2.txt >> alltext.txt
One > sends data into the file replacing whatever is in there,
and two >> appends, adds the data to existing file w/out
deleting what is already in there.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: Cannot Login into Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 11:54:50 GMT
On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 07:40:57 GMT, Jitesh Batra
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi...
>I am running a Redhat Kinux 6.0.
>We are unable to login on the console in init 3 mode. We are only able
>to work in linux single mode.
>Whenever we give a user name on the login prompt, it does not ask for a
>password and we get back the new login prompt..
>We have been unable to figure out the problem
>
>Further the telnet login shows the /etc/issue , but does not give a
>login prompt.
>Please help it is causing the entire network shutdown
~# man nologin
NOLOGIN(5) Linux Programmer's Manual NOLOGIN(5)
NAME
nologin - prevent non-root users from log into the system
DESCRIPTION
If the file /etc/nologin exists, login(1) will allow
access only to root. Other users will be shown the con-
tents of this file and their logins refused.
FILES
/etc/nologin
SEE ALSO
login(1), shutdown(8)
Lew Pitcher
Information Technology Consultant
Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: gcc-2.95.2 rpm? Where?
Date: 23 Jun 2000 11:47:21 GMT
Christoph Kukulies ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Anyone knowing where to find a gcc-2.95.2 rpm?
try rufus.w3.org
--
jazz annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org
Registered linux user no. 164098
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: Cannot install new Mandrake. Help!!!
Date: 23 Jun 2000 11:49:08 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: installer system shuts down and the game is over. Has anybody any
: suggestion about what it can possibly mean or what I should do with
: that problem. I work on PC with Celeron 366 MHz, 32 MB RAM, 13 GB hard
: disk divided into several partitions, Award Bios managing LBA - I never
: had any problems with the size nor location of my linux partitions.
: please help me!!! :-)
there is a section in www.mandrakeuser.org specifically for installation,
check it out
--
jazz annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org
Registered linux user no. 164098
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: Upgrading glibc/gtk issue
Date: 23 Jun 2000 11:41:26 GMT
Peter B. Ensch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: What do I do?!
: 1) Do I need to upgrade each rpm listed in the error messages
: so that all incompatibilities/dependencies are satisfied before I
: install
: the new glibc/gtk? OR
: 2) Do I just forge ahead and fix any problems later? OR
: 3) Do I buy a more recent version of the distro and reinstall from
: scratch?
I was faced with the same problem just now, but there are workarounds --
"cheats". But you should know that there is a -nodeps parameter
that lets you override the dependencies, but be careful in using it. If
it falls into the wrong hands, ;-)
Thru trial n error I was able to install an RPM even though it required
some other RPMs, when I checked I had those installed, maybe not in its
latest n greatest version but I had them, so maybe out of 4 or 5, I only
had to get one other RPM, and then with the -nodeps it went ahead n
installed. But if itrequires a dozen other RPMs you have to make sure it
wasn't because of a botched install
Then you can gethe other packageslater on if you find some other things
aren't running 'quite right'
Think of -nodeps acting like the -dammit parameter from freshmeat.net :-)
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Registered linux user no. 164098
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: ne.internet.services
Subject: Re: GNU/LINUX at city of Boston Public Library departments
Date: 23 Jun 2000 11:54:42 GMT
Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On 22 Jun 2000 07:08:12 GMT, "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: wrote:
:>Because around here, for example, a survey of say the first fifty
:>people you met would find say 20 emas user, 20 vi users, and the others
:>using whatever they can scrounge on their winplatform of hell. If they
:>don telnet in and use vi, that is. Are you implying that these are not
:>ordinarily intelligent people?
: You're saying they actually use vi or emacs by choice ? Or because
Yes.
: their management is too cheap to buy software designed in the last
Management? We are individuals, not slaves.
: 10 years ? Get out and take a look at the business world; the tools
: you use were abandoned by businesses for office use in the 80's.
They were never used by businesses, as you know. But maybe you are
talking about dos and windows 3.1 equivalents. When those tools were
developed the market was a few hundred thousand (or few million)
programmers, scientists, students and academics, and they worked well
for them and still work well for them. Now the market contains about a
hundred times as many people, mostly with less technical exposure or
capacity. In betweentimes the business market has been using all kinds
of expensive and not-so-expensive "solutions", from framemaker to
whatever, all of which I have never been able to stand, or understand
why they're deemed useful.
But then I've never been a person who left school at sixteen and who has
been trying to scrounge a living as a temporary filing clerk ever since!
That kind of person can write a letter faster using word or wordperfect
than they can write one using vi plus latex (mind you, I'm not sure,
since it really feels easier to do the latter to me), but I don't know.
I just don't get it. It's replacing a deficit in mentality that I don't
lack. I don't see any difficulty in using vi plus latex. It makes
things easier for me, since I don't have to mess with a mouse and such.
Just write and go. Isn't that easier than floundering around looking
for menus and shortcuts? I see what I write (except when writing blind
over a modem link that takes 30s to respond to keystrokes ...).
Peter
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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A bash bug?
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 07:59:15 -0400
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Guardian wrote:
>
> On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:16:39 -0400, Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >Hi.
> >
> >When I use bash as my login shell, I cannot create/write/delete/move a
> >file that exists under a directory that I don't own, but under which I
> >have group write permissions. Using csh, I have no problem.
> >
> >I think this needs an example:
> >
> >Suppose I have the following directory:
> >
> >drwxrwxr-x 5 fred users 1024 May 30 10:28 ShareDir
> >
> >Suppose further that I am logged in as 'bill' who is also in the 'users'
> >group. If the /etc/passwd file has /bin/bash as the login shell for
> >'bill', and I change directory to ShareDir, I do not have permission to
> >create a file there. However, if I set the login shell for 'bill' in
> >/etc/passwd to be /bin/csh, I _am_ able to create a file under ShareDir
> >when logged in as 'bill'.
> >
> >Is this a bug somewhere with bash? BTW, I'm running RedHat 6.2, kernel
> >2.2.14-5
> >
> >Thanks.
> >Mark
>
> If I understand correctly, there is no problem here. You will not
> find a directory with these set permission outside a users home
> directory, unless you create one and chmod it. Where is this share
> anyway. If it's in root then only root should have been able to
> create it.
We happen to have a scenario where we wanted to do what I illustrated.
We have a web administrator who makes a subdirectory under
/home/httpd/... with group, say, 'web'. If I'm in the web group, the
administrator wants me to be able to create a file there. However with
bash I cannot. With csh I can.
> The point being, you will not find a dir with these permissions and a
> normal user cannot create one outside of his directory either. Make
> sure all home dirs have drwx--x--x or less and you will not have this
> problem. Because it would be impossible for a user in the "users"
> group to create such a share in any directory other than his own; then
> no one else could even "ls" the directory to read the files much less
> create files.
Your argument seems to be based upon there not being a reason for
wanting to do the scenario I'm describing and, therefore, it's not a
problem. But as it stands it still does not explain why bash and csh are
not consistent, and I believe csh has the correct implementation of the
intended use of "group has write permission to directory", whereas bash
does not.
Mark
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