Linux-Misc Digest #902, Volume #24               Fri, 23 Jun 00 12:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Re: CD burning software (besides cdrecord)! (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: Setting up a shellaccount server (Buddy Smith)
  Binary <> 1.-Telenet @ NT 2.-Scanner (Binary)
  Can't Delete a certian Character Special file -- Why/How? (Ken Sproule)
  Re: Problem running files... :( (brian moore)
  re:Telnet Linux ("ctrl_alt")
  "Building Beowulf Clusters" (Jodi Crandell)
  Re: Problem running files... :( (Paul Kimoto)
  debugger for seperate files (green bird)
  Re: REBOL ("Ed Collins")
  Re: debugger for seperate files (Grant Edwards)
  Re: Viewing Chinese characters in RH Linux (Dewey Chan)
  Re: NIS+ (Michael Abadjiev)
  traffic on server? (Marcos Lloret)
  Re: Binary <> 1.-Telenet @ NT 2.-Scanner (brian moore)
  Re: tool for joining various (text) files, editing and splitting them (Tyler Durden)
  Re: REBOL ("Ed Collins")
  Re: re:Telnet Linux ("Peter T. Breuer")

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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD burning software (besides cdrecord)!
Date: 23 Jun 2000 10:58:41 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak) writes:

> On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:37:18 +0200, Mats Pettersson said:
> >Hi!
> >
> >Is there any easy to use CD-record software for Linux?
> >
> >I looked at cdrecord but it seems to need enogh HD drive space to contain a
> >image file of the data to be burned. Since the problem is that i don't have
> >much space left on my drive i would like to burn the data directly to the
> >CD.
> 
> No, it can accept data through a pipe - if you give the filename as
> '-'.

if mkisofs disk reading and filesystem construction process stalls out
and your write buffer runs dry, you've got yourself a (lousy) coaster.
if you can't spare the 700MB for the iso image, you can't have much
room for anything else you're doing.  it may be worth spending $100
for a 9GB hard disk.

-- 
johan kullstam l72t00052

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From: Buddy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Setting up a shellaccount server
Date: 23 Jun 2000 15:16:20 GMT

Followup set to comp.os.linux.security. please don't crosspost

In comp.os.linux.security Philip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am going to setup a RedHat 6.2 box as shellaccount server. (No I can't
> use another distrubution so don't tell me that I should use another one,
> I already know that), However...

Use openBSD for a shell box </flame>

> * I don't want the shellaccount users to be abel to see the other
> directory structure of the system. So when they do cd / they should cd
> to their homedir. How do I do this ? I guess using chroot, reading the
> man page did not helped me a lot.. So lets say .. from the moment my
> user logs in (with ssh, telnet, whatever) I want to make sure that he
> can't go out of his own homedir. (I guess thats being done wth chroot
> right? well how :)? )

You can limit users to their home directories in FTP, but in a shell, you
have to setup a root directory for them with all the programs/libraries
they'll need to use the system.  Per user? this could be a few 100MB per
user, easily.

My point? It isn't worth the trouble to setup chroot'd shell users. just
don't give 'em a shell

> * I want to know which redhat packages should be removed immediatly. I
> will probably reinstall most applications like apache using the source
> of their latest stable version and a new kernel (2.2.15)

Anything you don't need

> *Somebody told me about fake shells who don't allow the user to run
> specific commands or .. I don't know a lot about these.. Maybe somebody
> can provide me with more information about these ?! Maybe it doesn't
> even exist at all .. whatever then :)

You can do a restricted shell, but again, you have to do things like not
allow users to run their own binaries, and your system becomes useless.  I
hope you aren't charging for these shells

> * I want to know about the huge security holes in Redhat :) I know that
> redhat provides a few tools that allow normal users to for example
> reboot the computer if these users are local users (behind the keyboard
> of the hardware). I dislike this so things like these will be
> uninstalled immediatly. But are their others like these ?

redhat.com has security errata on their site

> * A script for new users .. somebody know where I can get examples. I
> know a little bit bash scripting and pretty well C so making changes to
> this script should be no problem for me .. but an example would be more
> then welcome.

? for adding? 'adduser','useradd' on slackware. i think rh has an
equivalent

> can't choose the distrubution myself.. my job is to configure the
> animal. thats it!

why not?

i hope the webserver is separate from the shellbox

--buddy

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From: Binary <.@.>
Subject: Binary <> 1.-Telenet @ NT 2.-Scanner
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:22:07 +0200

Hello,

1.- I want to know if there's any program that provides a full
featured telnet -unix way- over winnt systems. 
2.- And, can anybody recomend me a good scanner that scans ports for
wathever: socks, telnet, smtp, etc- in a range of IP? (a) running in
winnt; b)running in linux)

Thanks in advance.

Binary

Binary "at" wol "dot" es
| at = "@"  |  dot  = "." |

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From: Ken Sproule <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can't Delete a certian Character Special file -- Why/How?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 15:23:14 GMT

Thanks in advance for your help.

ls -lni gcal gives the following:
1100523 c---r----- 8223 8224     8224      32,  32 Jan 30  1987 gcal

I don't understand the 8224 in the user and group columns either as
there is no uid/gid of 8224. Things don't look right to me.

I have tried everything I can think of to try and delete this file but
it always gives me a "Operation not permitted" error.

I have tried rm -f gcal to no avail.

Can any one show me the syntax to remove this file?

Best,

Ken Sproule
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Problem running files... :(
Date: 23 Jun 2000 15:25:40 GMT

On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 11:45:37 +0300, 
 John Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul Kimoto wrote:
> > 
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Eriksson wrote:
> > > I downloaded Doom a few days ago, unpacked it, and tried to run the
> > > executables
> > > but I only get the error:
> > > "bash: ./xdoom: cannot execute binary file"
> > >
> > > I mean shouldn't I be able to run it as it is?  In the Readme it says
> > > nothing
> > > about having to do womething else but run the file... :/
> > 
> > You may need to have (different) libraries available on your system.  What
> > are the outputs of "file ./xdoom" and "ldd ./xdoom"?
> 
> 
> "file ./xdoom":
> ./xdoom: Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (ZMAGIC), stripped
> 
> "ldd ./xdoom":
>        not a dynamic executable
> 
> 
> That are the outputs, give any help?

You need a kernel that supports a.out files and the proper libraries
(libc.so.4 for a.out and whatever the X libs are for that era).

Since Doom is now GPL'd, you may want to look for one of the more recent
versions like lxdoom to avoid this.  See freshmeat.net

-- 
Brian Moore                       | Of course vi is God's editor.
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
      Usenet Vandal               |  for it to load on the seventh day.
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.

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From: "ctrl_alt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: re:Telnet Linux
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 16:11:55 +0100

I think that noone undestood what i pretend :
When i telnet to the linux box he ask me for a login:
then a pass: and when i stike the enter key the linux cut the connetion i
even have time to put the su password what i pretend is to be able to put it
next i login and i dont know what i have to change to do this



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From: Jodi Crandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "Building Beowulf Clusters"
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 08:27:21 -0700

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Problem running files... :(
Date: 23 Jun 2000 11:31:31 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Eriksson wrote:
> "file ./xdoom":
> ./xdoom: Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (ZMAGIC), stripped

These days all Linux executables are in the "ELF" format (run something
like "file /bin/bash" to see "file"'s output on them).  This executable is
in the obsolete format usually (poorly) called "a.out".  Your kernel needs
to support this format, either by having it built in to the kernel directly
(CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=y) or by having the "binfmt_aout" module (available
and) loaded.

> "ldd ./xdoom":
>       not a dynamic executable

(Because of the former, this output might not be reliable.)

-- 
Paul Kimoto

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Subject: debugger for seperate files
From: green bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 08:30:53 -0700

Hi, there,

Is there any debugger in Linux for a source file which calls
other functions and these functions are in other seperate files?
It seems that gdb can only debug a huge single source file.

Thanks.

Dvais

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From: "Ed Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.misc,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: REBOL
Date: 22 Jun 2000 11:03:23 +0000

On the 22 Jun 2000 06:52:47 GMT, Pete Goodeve said,
> 
> (Apologies for the somewhat scattershot cross-posting, but these seemed
> likely groups for some activity, and I know REBOL is available for the
> OSs I addressed.)
> 
> I'm curious to know if anyone has actually been using REBOL (Carl Sassenrath's
> interpretive scripting language) for anything practical yet.  If so, what
> are your feelings about it?  (I have no connection with the company -- just
> personal interest...)

Certainly have. Apart from using it on my company website for handling
the news, I have developed a full ecommerce system on my amiga using
it (can be seen at http://www.savilleflowers.com/) along with
numerous other cgi scripts. I did a nifty script to parse the BBC
news pages and download them locally (along with images) so I can read
offline. A lot faster than going to about 8 news pages and reading
them online. I just find it really great to use.

The newer Rebol/View beta which is now out for the amiga has GUI
capabilities on top of the core capabilities is quite neat too. Nice
versions of chess and minesweeper have been programmed for it.

Ed.
-- 
The World Foundry, Ltd - Amiga Game Developers
Amiga PPC  -  Explorer 2260  -  Maim & Mangle

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: debugger for seperate files
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 15:43:46 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, green bird wrote:

>Is there any debugger in Linux for a source file which calls
>other functions and these functions are in other seperate files?
>It seems that gdb can only debug a huge single source file.

I've used gdb on projects with anywhere from tens to hundreds
of source files in multiple languages (C, Assmbly, Modula-3),
and I never had any problems.  What exactly happens when you
try to debug a program built from multiple files?

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  Why don't you
                                  at               ever enter and CONTESTS,
                               visi.com            Marvin?? Don't you know
                                                   your own ZIPCODE?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dewey Chan)
Subject: Re: Viewing Chinese characters in RH Linux
Date: 23 Jun 2000 15:33:25 GMT

In article <8ivm8e$309$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lu Bingwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have a similar question. Where to get Chinese (Big5) fonts for Netscape
>install on RedHat Linux6.2? Any suggestions please send email to
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks a lot a lot.
>
>Ben
>
>
>
>Tan Chee Sin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Is there a way to do it? In Windows, I could just install a viewer like
>> NJStar Communicator.
>> Is there also a Chinese word processor for Linux?
>>
>> Chee Sin

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Chinese-HOWTO-3.html
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Chinese-HOWTO.html
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Chinese-HOWTO-11.html

http://www.linuxdoc.org, search for "Chinese" and you should get some more
useful links. 

-dc

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From: Michael Abadjiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.solaris.x86,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.admin,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: NIS+
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 15:57:39 GMT

TomC wrote:

> Hi, I have more than 5 redhat server in my company and every time a new
> staff come then I need to add account in each server. It is very
> inconvenience. I think that can I add a solaris NIS+ server and all the
> linux clients join to it and share the information. Can I? Any HOWTO
> will talk about this?
> Thanks

I think you mean NIS (YP) not NIS+ there is a HowTo take a look at it and
if you still have a problem let me know.
Regards,
Michael Abadjiev


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From: Marcos Lloret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: traffic on server?
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 15:59:28 GMT

hi,

    i would like to know the traffic that gets a server (web,mail,...)
in a lan. how can i do it? is it possible to limit the traffic
(in/out)??
    and how about the traffic from ports (25,110,80,....)??

thanks in advance,

marcos
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Binary <> 1.-Telenet @ NT 2.-Scanner
Date: 23 Jun 2000 16:00:56 GMT

On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:22:07 +0200, 
 Binary <.@.> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> 1.- I want to know if there's any program that provides a full
> featured telnet -unix way- over winnt systems. 

No idea, I don't use NT.

> 2.- And, can anybody recomend me a good scanner that scans ports for
> wathever: socks, telnet, smtp, etc- in a range of IP? (a) running in
> winnt; b)running in linux)

a) No idea, I don't use NT.
b) nmap

-- 
Brian Moore                       | Of course vi is God's editor.
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
      Usenet Vandal               |  for it to load on the seventh day.
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.

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From: Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tool for joining various (text) files, editing and splitting them
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 16:00:20 GMT

Uwe Brauer wrote:

> I am looking for a simple tool to join various (text) files (which say
> have the same extension, but are located in various directories) to a
> single file, editing them and finally splitt them again.

man cat
man split

--tyler

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From: "Ed Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.misc,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: REBOL
Date: 22 Jun 2000 21:11:04 +0000

On the 22 Jun 2000 16:55:09 GMT, Donn Cave said,

> | Feel free to check this site:
> |
> | http://www.paulnolan.com/
> |
> | Author states that it is done using Rebol. BTW, his software is cool, too!
> 
> The site was done using Rebol, or the software?  I couldn't find anything
> about that, is this statement on the web site somewhere?

The website is done using rebol. Paul is listed as one of the
businesses on the rebol website that use rebol in some way. In this
case it says rebol is used to handle the website.

Ed.
-- 
The World Foundry, LLC - Amiga Game Developers
Amiga PPC  -  Explorer 2260  -  Maim & Mangle

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: re:Telnet Linux
Date: 23 Jun 2000 15:45:50 GMT

ctrl_alt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I think that noone undestood what i pretend :
: When i telnet to the linux box he ask me for a login:
: then a pass: and when i stike the enter key the linux cut the connetion i
: even have time to put the su password what i pretend is to be able to put it
: next i login and i dont know what i have to change to do this

I suggest you rephrase your question with more care.  The above makes no
sense without considerable context, all of which is lacking.  Also
please separate your sentences with full stops! Fortunately I got a
glimpse of another reply in this thread, so I can guess what you are
trying to say.

If your telnet server is dying AFTER you have supplied a password, then one
would suspect that there is either

   a) a lot wrong with one of your login scripts.
   b) a lot wrong with your typing skills.

Based on the evidence so far, the latter would seem most likely ...
but look at the daemons logging output to find out more.

Peter

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